I hope the Pats beat the ever living sh*t

[kysirsoze]

Meh. I think I'd rather the Jets beat a coach that blatantly cheats than the Pats beat a team that runs their mouth a little.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Meh. I think I'd rather the Jets beat a coach that blatantly cheats than the Pats beat a team that runs their mouth a little.

get over that shit. Cheating has zero to do with the Pats winning

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

get over that shit. Cheating has zero to do with the Pats winning

This is the last I'll say on it, but there is no way you can make that statement. If it had zero to do with it, they wouldn't have done it. I'm not saying it's why they won their SBs. Just saying they're cheaters.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

This is the last I'll say on it, but there is no way you can make that statement. If it had zero to do with it, they wouldn't have done it. I'm not saying it's why they won their SBs. Just saying they're cheaters.

They violated a rule, were caught, and were punished. It was three years ago, and their winning percentage post-being-caught (under BB) is higher than it was pre-being-caught.

Feel free to hold it against them forever, that's fine, but if you think they were the only ones doing that kind of thing, you are certainly very much mistaken.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

They violated a rule, were caught, and were punished. It was three years ago, and their winning percentage post-being-caught (under BB) is higher than it was pre-being-caught.

Feel free to hold it against them forever, that's fine, but if you think they were the only ones doing that kind of thing, you are certainly very much mistaken.

Look, you have to admit that there have not been any amazing 2nd half adjustments by mumbles since the cameras were taken away. and you can try and justify it all you want, but the bottom line is they havent won a super bowl since 2004. and had they still had cameras during that Giants super bowl and knew what plays were coming I doubt the Giants come back in that game.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by D2112

Look, you have to admit that there have not been any amazing 2nd half adjustments by mumbles since the cameras were taken away, and you can try and justify it all you want, but the bottom line is they havent won a super bowl since 2004. and had they still had cameras during that Giants super bowl and knew what plays were coming I doubt the Giants come back in that game.

This actually proves that you don't know what you're talking about.

1. The filming of signals couldn't possibly be done, processed, analyzed and then fed back into BB to make analytical use of by halftime for use in the second half. It's just not feasible.

2. Didn't win a Super Bowl? Yeah, they just had an undefeated season and then lost a Super Bowl with some very lucky/fluky plays went against them. Which I have no problem with. Everyone can use some luck, and the Giants played completely out of their minds that game. They were the better team that day. But it's nto like the Patriots have really struggled since the start of 2007 when all this came out. Obviously that's not remotely true.

3. I don't remember the exact details of the game in terms of score changes, but it was neck and neck throughout and the Giants only came back from one score down at the end. Compare to, say, the AFCC game against the Colts, PRE-SPYGATE, when the Colts roared back in the 2nd half after being down 17 points or whatever at halftime to win.

You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

This actually proves that you don't know what you're talking about.

1. The filming of signals couldn't possibly be done, processed, analyzed and then fed back into BB to make analytical use of by halftime for use in the second half. It's just not feasible.

Dude! they were filming the Rams walk through before the Super bowl in 2001. did you know that? it wasnt just the games they were video taping. and whats makes you think theyre gonna tip their hat on what they know in the first half anyways?

Originally Posted by Amnorix

2. Didn't win a Super Bowl? Yeah, they just had an undefeated season and then lost a Super Bowl with some very lucky/fluky plays went against them. Which I have no problem with. Everyone can use some luck, and the Giants played completely out of their minds that game. They were the better team that day. But it's nto like the Patriots have really struggled since the start of 2007 when all this came out. Obviously that's not remotely true.

Please, their recent performances in big games have not been all that good. dont you think? Giants super bowl.the Ravens in the playoffs last year? that was unheard of before the cameras were taken away. I wont mension the Colts game because it was 2006.

Originally Posted by Amnorix

3. I don't remember the exact details of the game in terms of score changes, but it was neck and neck throughout and the Giants only came back from one score down at the end. Compare to, say, the AFCC game against the Colts, PRE-SPYGATE, when the Colts roared back in the 2nd half after being down 17 points or whatever at halftime to win.

You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

You got me on the Colts game. that was the 2006 season. then what happened in that game?

[cardken]

as you all know I'm a Jets fan. But unless they can keep the score close till late in the game, this will be a turkey shoot for the Patriots. All season long if the Jets aren't any further back than one score going into the last three minutes they are finding ways to win. But Brady has been a surgeon this season and the Defense has gotten nothing but better since the Cleveland meltdown. So hoping for what is on paper a good game but they rarely pan out that way. But anyways Go J E T S! JETSJETSJETS!