New Mock

[journeyscarab]

1.Carolina Panthers: Cam Newton QB Auburn
2.Denver Broncos: Marcell Dareus DT Alabama
3.Buffalo Bills: Von Miller LB Texas A&M
4.Cincinnati Bengals: Blaine Gabbert QB Mizzou
5.Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson CB LSU
6.Cleveland Browns: A.J Green WR Georgia
7.San Francisco 49ers: Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
8.Tennesse Titans: Nick Fairley DT Auburn
9.Dallas Cowboys: Mike Pouncey C/G Florida
10.Washington Redskins: Julio Jones WR Alabama
11.Houston Texans: Aldon Smith LB Mizzou
12.Minnesota Vikings: Jake Locker QB Washington
13.Detroit Lions: Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
14.St.Louis Rams: Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
15.Miami Dolphins: Mark Ingram RB Alabama
16.Jacksonville Jaguars: Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
17.New England Patriots: Cameron Jordan DE California
18.San Diego Chargers: J.J Watt DE Wisconsin
19.New York Giants: Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College
20.Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
21.Kansas City Chiefs: Akeem Ayers LB UCLA
22.Indianapolis Colts: Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
23.Philadelphia Eagles: Derrok Sherrod OT Mississippi State
24.New Orleans Saints: Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
25.Seattle Seahawks: Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
26.Baltimore Ravens: Muhammed Wilkerson DT/DE Temple
27.Atlanta Falcons: Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
28.New England Patriots: Brooks Reed LB Arizona
29.Chicago Bears: Nate Solder OT Colorado
30.New York Jets: Phil Taylor NT Baylor
31.Pittsburgh Steelers: Aaron Williams CB Texas
32.Green Bay Packers: Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh

[philfree]

Originally Posted by TRR

What exactly would Cassel have to do to "prove" the debate wrong (i.e: That he is the right QB for the job) in your eyes?

I don't want to get into the debate, however I'm wondering what your measuring the debate on....

Let me help.

He needs to lead a last minute comeback win in the playoffs agaisnt the Ravens D with no blocking, no running game and no WRs. And no defense either. He needs to lead 3 4th qtr comebacks all in the same game.


PhilFree

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by TRR

What exactly would Cassel have to do to "prove" the debate wrong (i.e: That he is the right QB for the job) in your eyes?

I don't want to get into the debate, however I'm wondering what your measuring the debate on....

I can tell you that for me, I was very disappointed that we traded for Cassel instead of drafting a franchise QB. So to prove my disappointment wrong, he has to do the things that a franchise QB should do, which is the thing that no Chiefs QB has done in awhile:

Win a playoff game. So far he's 0-1. If he gets another chance this year, I hope like hell that he has a better performance than he did in January

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by philfree

Let me help.

He needs to lead a last minute comeback win in the playoffs agaisnt the Ravens D with no blocking, no running game and no WRs. And no defense either. He needs to lead 3 4th qtr comebacks all in the same game.


PhilFree

No, he just needs to win one. At the very least, he shouldn't throw those idiot bone-headed interceptions that he did

[philfree]

Originally Posted by SNR

No, he just needs to win one. At the very least, he shouldn't throw those idiot bone-headed interceptions that he did

Without going back and linking it the truth is he has done so more then once in his career. That said I'm not pimping the guy I'm just trying to see the reality of Matt Cassel.


PhilFree

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Laz

like that's a CP thing ... there a million different opinions about 90% of the players in the draft.

and nearly all of them opinion givers have interviewed all the players less than you, right?

it is a cp thing. optimism is rowned upon often.
I'm not trying to champion for ayers, just like to laugh at some of the talk.

if ayers is the guy todd, scott and romeo thinks helps this team and there's not a better option on their board at 21, they have to ask "is ayers going to still be there in the second when we pick?" If the answer is probably not, then you take him.

A lot of posters on CP often times, let draft grades carry to much weight in their takes, JMHO.

there is no such thing as a little to early to pick unless its a full round to early.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by TRR

What exactly would Cassel have to do to "prove" the debate wrong (i.e: That he is the right QB for the job) in your eyes?

I don't want to get into the debate, however I'm wondering what your measuring the debate on....

Continue to improve on his progress during last season and play with a little more consistency through the 2011 season, and into the playoffs.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

and nearly all of them opinion givers have interviewed all the players less than you, right?

it is a cp thing. optimism is rowned upon often.
I'm not trying to champion for ayers, just like to laugh at some of the talk.

if ayers is the guy todd, scott and romeo thinks helps this team and there's not a better option on their board at 21, they have to ask "is ayers going to still be there in the second when we pick?" If the answer is probably not, then you take him.

That's assuming that Todd and Scott think that there are no other players who will make as big of an impact or do as well on the Chiefs as Ayers.

I and many others simply believe there are many possible selections out there who will be better players in the NFL.

That's what's great about the draft. We're free to have these kind of discussions until the draft happens. Then all we're doing is posting poop threads and making weak speculations about how the season will go. Personally, I know what I'd rather be talking about.