Chiefs Yahoo.com Draft Grades - Page 6

**BigMeatballDave** · 11:12 AM

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Denver Broncos
Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal.
Grade: B
Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft.

Kansas City Chiefs
Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon.
Grade: B-
Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters.

Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.

San Diego Chargers
Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar.
Grade: B
Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven.

NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division.

|Zach| · 05-03-2011, 05:46 PM

Denver is going to continue to have problems against the run. But hey we have some decent pass rushers while Charles takes it to the house from where ever he chooses.

veist · 05-03-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

That can happen when one guy plays a year longer than another.

I thought Beal was a good pick. Didn't expect him to last quite that long. His motor and work ethic might push him beyond his athletic limits, like it did at OU.

His 5.14 40 time with a 1.78 10 yard split, weak vert of 28.5, weak broad of 8.83 all killed his draft stock.

Ugly Duck · 05-03-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Don't worry, we'll forget all about how Dumervil was on OLB in a 3-4 that year.

Did Dumervil ever get his pectoral muscle sewn back on to his sternum? Wonder if it'll stay put if they sewed it back on yet....

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Denver is going to continue to have problems against the run. But hey we have some decent pass rushers while Charles takes it to the house from where ever he chooses.

Jamaal Charles' speed will be neutralized by the speed of our linebackers. Von Miller is fast enough to chase him down from behind.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by veist

His 5.14 40 time with a 1.78 10 yard split, weak vert of 28.5, weak broad of 8.83 all killed his draft stock.

Tell me, what hurt Powe's draft stock?

milkman · 05-03-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Jamaal Charles' speed will be neutralized by the speed of our linebackers. Von Miller is fast enough to chase him down from behind.

Holiiiiiy shit!

You are one dumb son of......

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Jamaal Charles' speed will be neutralized by the speed of our linebackers. Von Miller is fast enough to chase him down from behind.

seriously?
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**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 08:14 PM

I'm glad we didn't get rid of Knowmo permanently when he lost the bet to BossChief.

Holy shit that is priceless

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:16 PM

von ****ing miller is a 4.5 guy. He isn't even as fast as baldwin, Which know nuthin said yesterday, let alone charles.

Just
Shut
The
****
Up
Already
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Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:17 PM

I know Charles would win in a straight up footrace but some of the runs Charles has broken against us was because our guys were too slow. Von Miller is probably the second fastest player on our defense and would be the second fastest player on the Chiefs defense too after Eric Berry.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:18 PM

Von has been timed numerous times at 4.42.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Von has been timed numerous times at 4.42.

Where? What did he run at the combine?
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**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 08:20 PM

Hey Knowmo, our new DE is country strong and eats raccoon.

His presence on the line will neutralize at least 3 of your offensive linemen on every down. Tebow/Orton will virtually have zero pocket all game. You'll need a three TE set just to give him some time to hand the ball off

milkman · 05-03-2011, 08:21 PM

Yeah....I'm going to go with my initial reaction.

You're a dumbass of epic proportions.

Amoeba look genius in comparison.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:21 PM

4.53 at the combine.
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05-03-2011, 11:06 AM
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Yahoo.com Draft Grades http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._grades_050111 Bite me, if repost Denver Broncos Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal. Grade: B Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft. Kansas City Chiefs Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon. Grade: B- Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters. Oakland Raiders Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry . Grade: B+ Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent. San Diego Chargers Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar. Grade: B Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven. NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division. Last edited by BigMeatballDave; 05-03-2011 at 11:12 AM..
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5206768	Denver is going to continue to have problems against the run. But hey we have some decent pass rushers while Charles takes it to the house from where ever he chooses.
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05-03-2011, 08:16 PM	#84
SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	von **ing miller is a 4.5 guy. He isn't even as fast as baldwin, Which know nuthin said yesterday, let alone charles. Just Shut The ** Up Already Posted via Mobile Device
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05-03-2011, 08:17 PM	#85
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3878675	I know Charles would win in a straight up footrace but some of the runs Charles has broken against us was because our guys were too slow. Von Miller is probably the second fastest player on our defense and would be the second fastest player on the Chiefs defense too after Eric Berry.
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05-03-2011, 08:18 PM	#86
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3878675	Von has been timed numerous times at 4.42.
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05-03-2011, 08:21 PM	#89
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Yeah....I'm going to go with my initial reaction. You're a dumbass of epic proportions. Amoeba look genius in comparison. __________________
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