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Old 07-15-2011, 04:36 PM   #1
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That does sound like a damn decent line if you have confidence in Albert.

Clabo definitely my number 1.

I don't necessarily want franklin, but I'd be thrilled with the signing. It means Pioli is trying to compete this year.
LOL wut?

Pioli would be trying not to compete if he doesn't sign a big name?
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:49 PM   #2
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LOL wut?

Pioli would be trying not to compete if he doesn't sign a big name?
Built-in excuse for the haters.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:56 PM   #3
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LOL wut?

Pioli would be trying not to compete if he doesn't sign a big name?
I think that's where the disconnect is between the "sign FA's" camp and the "don't sign FA's" camp.

The definition of "big name."

No one is expecting Pioli to go out and sign a Albert Haynesworth type circa 2009.

But there are a lot of guys out there that can help this team, that I don't consider Tier A FA's.

Steve Breaston
Ryan Harris
Chris Hoke
Michael Bush (potentially)

Etc.

To pass on guys like this in favor of slugs like Urban, Long, Engram, Toomer, etc would be pretty ****ing stupid considering this roster still has a lot of the same holes it had 3 years ago.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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Ryan Harris
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Michael Bush (potentially)
Drew Stanton
I'll take this.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:59 PM   #5
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I'll take this.
Yeah, forgot we probably need to sign a QB2.

I'm not the fan of Stanton you are, but there's not much out there at QB.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:02 PM   #6
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I think that's where the disconnect is between the "sign FA's" camp and the "don't sign FA's" camp.

The definition of "big name."

No one is expecting Pioli to go out and sign a Albert Haynesworth type circa 2009.

But there are a lot of guys out there that can help this team, that I don't consider Tier A FA's.

Steve Breaston
Ryan Harris
Chris Hoke
Michael Bush (potentially)

Etc.

To pass on guys like this in favor of slugs like Urban, Long, Engram, Toomer, etc would be pretty ****ing stupid considering this roster still has a lot of the same holes it had 3 years ago.
I'm not in the 'don't sign FA's" camp. I'm in the don't overspend for marginal players like Franklin camp.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:05 PM   #7
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I'm not in the 'don't sign FA's" camp. I'm in the don't overspend for marginal players like Franklin camp.
Didn't say you were or weren't, just making an overall comment.

FTR, I agree. Not a fan of Franklin.

IMO, we need a couple of Lilja-like signings. Tier B guys that are going to make an impact.

Ignoring your gaping holes, or trying to fill them with trash isn't going to cut it if this team expects to improve.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:07 PM   #8
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I'm not in the 'don't sign FA's" camp. I'm in the don't overspend for marginal players like Franklin camp.
That would be against the blueprint anyway.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:10 PM   #9
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That would be against the blueprint anyway.
A fresh rotation of Edwards, Powe and Shaun Smith isn't THAT bad. I don't feel like spending huge dollars on a NT is worth it.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:34 PM   #10
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A fresh rotation of Edwards, Powe and Shaun Smith isn't THAT bad. I don't feel like spending huge dollars on a NT is worth it.
You absolutely spend big money for the right one.

Franklin isn't it.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:50 PM   #11
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A fresh rotation of Edwards, Powe and Shaun Smith isn't THAT bad. I don't feel like spending huge dollars on a NT is worth it.
It's not that good, either.

The only addition is a guy that apparently can't read and hasn't had the luxury of getting coached up for the past 4 months.

If the defense is going to take the next step, management has to address the NT position.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:04 PM   #12
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To pass on guys like this in favor of slugs like Urban, Long, Engram, Toomer, etc would be pretty ****ing stupid considering this roster still has a lot of the same holes it had 3 years ago.
This has been the most disappointing part of what Pioli has done so far. I understand not going after elite players until we've built the team back. I just don't understand why we have to go after complete scrubs when there are quality 2nd level guys out there.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:09 PM   #13
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This has been the most disappointing part of what Pioli has done so far. I understand not going after elite players until we've built the team back. I just don't understand why we have to go after complete scrubs when there are quality 2nd level guys out there.
You and I butt heads a lot, but we're in complete agreement on this one.
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