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Old 07-16-2011, 07:41 PM   #1
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Improvement yes, but it's not the glaring liability at this point.
We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:47 PM   #2
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We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "
You are not listening! There are TWO holes left to fill on defense. If we can fill the NT spot this year, we do it. No matter how we finish this year we stand to get a STUD ILB next year in the draft.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:03 PM   #3
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You are not listening! There are TWO holes left to fill on defense. If we can fill the NT spot this year, we do it. No matter how we finish this year we stand to get a STUD ILB next year in the draft.
Passing on a playmaker so you can draft someone with maybe a top. 25 pick isn't strategy.

A slot receiver is a HELL of a lot easier to find.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:49 PM   #4
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We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "
After extending DJs deal, if we were to trade for Harris we might as well trade Belcher to the highest bidder because we won't be able to resign him when he deal ends.

It's just a bad idea on a lot of levels.

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Old 07-16-2011, 07:52 PM   #5
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We've talked all season if good.enougj is fine. Its not. This defense has the potential to be top 5. Why settle.for."good enough not to.be a liability. "
Because, for all of your "David Harris was a beast without a NT" talk, Sione Pouha was better than anyone that we had at NT last year.

We need a NT more than we need david Harris.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:59 PM   #6
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Because, for all of your "David Harris was a beast without a NT" talk, Sione Pouha was better than anyone that we had at NT last year.

We need a NT more than we need david Harris.
In my free agent list I have aubrayo franklin and david harris as my top 2. I think our defense could be top 5.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:02 PM   #7
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In my free agent list I have aubrayo franklin and david harris as my top 2. I think our defense could be top 5.
Then, all I can say is, thank heaven you're not Scott Pioli.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:12 PM   #8
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In my free agent list I have aubrayo franklin and david harris as my top 2. I think our defense could be top 5.
What part of we are going to have to give up a #1 draft pick to get David Harris is so difficult to understand?

Ahh, another Franklin lover. Maybe I'd take the 2009 version of Franklin because the 2010 version was shit.
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What part of we are going to have to give up a #1 draft pick to get David Harris is so difficult to understand?

Ahh, another Franklin lover. Maybe I'd take the 2009 version of Franklin because the 2010 version was shit.
Yeah top 3 in tackles for nose tackles and a top 10 ranked team against the rush. Franklin ****ing sucks!
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:20 PM   #10
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Yeah top 3 in tackles for nose tackles and a top 10 ranked team against the rush. Franklin ****ing sucks!
He's a beneficiary of Patrick Willis being a freak of nature.

Watch the games sometime and stop forming your opinions on second hand information.

Why can't you explain why the 49ers wouldn't want to keep him whent hey have nothing else behind him?
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:33 PM   #11
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What part of we are going to have to give up a #1 draft pick to get David Harris is so difficult to understand?

Ahh, another Franklin lover. Maybe I'd take the 2009 version of Franklin because the 2010 version was shit.
You are assuming that the franchise tag applies with the new CBA. There's a very good chance Harris becomes an unrestricted free agent. In which case, you dont' have to give up any picks to get him. It's not the same as Carr where you're picking off a guy who's under contract. Harris' original contract already expired.

As for Franklin, I'm not a Franklin lover. There aren't a lot of options and I love the idea of a stopgap while they develop Powe. I think he's more than good enough to stopgap for 2 years.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:34 PM   #12
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You are assuming that the franchise tag applies with the new CBA. There's a very good chance Harris becomes an unrestricted free agent.

As for Franklin, I'm not a Franklin lover. There aren't a lot of options and I love the idea of a stopgap while they develop Powe. I think he's more than good enough to stopgap for 2 years.
I'm assuming nothing. Every media report has stated that the franchise tags are staying in the CBA. There's no chance that any of the franchise players are available.

He's not going to be paid like a stop gap. He's going to get top 5 NT money.
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I'm assuming nothing. Every media report has stated that the franchise tags are staying in the CBA. There's no chance that any of the franchise players are available.

He's not going to be paid like a stop gap. He's going to get top 5 NT money.
There's nothing wrong with top 5 money if it's a front-loaded contract that doesn't weigh your cap down for the long-term. It's okay to overpay a guy if you have cap space to do it. I have a problem with bringing in a guy who's going to weigh your cap space down for 5 years. A guy like Franklin would have no problem taking the bulk of his money upfront, since he's only got 2-3 years left anyway.

If you have to give a draft pick for Harris, of course he's not worth it. But if the tag moves to a one-time use only, are they still going to apply the tag to him? My guess is they'd have a chance to re-evaluate.
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