Another two weeks before the lockout is over?

[ToxSocks]

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.


The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Probably because the average IQ of an NFL player is at least 40 points lower than the average IQ of posters on this board. (D.C. posts excluded)

We don't go to the stadium to watch them solve calculus equations and explain Shakespeare

So Ryan Fitzpatrick is above average.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

A guy named Tony Softli, who was previously employed by the Rams and Panthers, is on a sports station in St. Louis saying that the players want a committee to hand down punishment instead of Goodell.

Cant blame them every other sport when you appeal something it doesnt go back to the Commissioner

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

A guy named Tony Softli, who was previously employed by the Rams and Panthers, is on a sports station in St. Louis saying that the players want a committee to hand down punishment instead of Goodell.

They may want that, but the NFL won't start talking about that until they sign. It might not be all one-sided, I'm guessing the NFL wants some workplace changes too, maybe they'll do something like this in exchange for more drug-testing or whatever.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

The thing the players are pissed about and no one in there right mind can blame them is. when they become a union again they have 3 days to work things out or it goes back to old cba rules on drugs and Commissioner powers.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Michael Lombardi just said the reason they didnt set a slotted rookie wage schedule was because rookies wouldn't hire agents. So, that would really hurt an industry. lol Yeah, you wouldn't want to damage an upstanding industry like sports agencies.


- CFoD -

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

The thing the players are pissed about and no one in there right mind can blame them is. when they become a union again they have 3 days to work things out or it goes back to old cba rules on drugs and comish powers.

Which is a total bluff IMO.

[BossChief]

Lol @ Mora

"we don't want to break down like a Ford Tundra"

Haha

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

RudyNiswangerRudy Niswanger
“@T_Daniels34: @RudyNiswanger Any good news or things still the same”-Still the same. Did you get the last few emails?


And he answered.

[BossChief]

Next on "old white men -vs- young black men"

Football or no football?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

A guy named Tony Softli, who was previously employed by the Rams and Panthers, is on a sports station in St. Louis saying that the players want a committee to hand down punishment instead of Goodell.

of course they do, children would love if they could determine their punishment when they screw up too instead of their parents. Maybe we should let people who commit a crimes determine their own punishments as well.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Advantage: Players



http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...15047/30788649


After scanning the details of the NFL owners' proposal for a new labor deal, I have some advice for DeMaurice Smith.

Race to get that thing approved.

Both sides will claim victory when the CBA is finally completed -- and it will get done since there are only some small issues left, according to a handful of players -- but that's not the way I see it.

The players scored a TKO.

With the exception of opening up the books, which was never going to happen, this deal would include almost everything the players wanted to get.

Smith, for all the criticism he has taken for being as defiant as he's come off, deserves plenty of praise for getting his players this deal.

The owners will spin it their way, but the issues all went the way of the players.

Just look at them:

----The players wanted half the revenue without anything coming off the top while the owners wanted $2 billion off the top, and then would give up half. The owners will take nothing off the top and the players would get 48-percent of all revenues.

Advantage: Players

---The players wanted more time off. They would get a lot more. There will be off-season workout limits. They will limit OTAs. They will get more days off.

---Advantage: Players.

---The players wanted teams to spend close to the cap, and they now would have to do so, spending cash to the cap floor. They wanted free agency after four years, while the owners didn't. Free agency would be after four years.

---Advantage: Players.

---The players would get an enhanced injury protection benefit of up to $1 million of a player’s salary for the contract year after his injury and up to $500,000 in the second year after his injury.

---Advantage: Players.

The owners wanted the rookie wage scale, and that would be in play. But they also wanted rookie deals for drafted players to be six years, not four. They would be four with an option for a fifth for some rookies.

----Advantage: Even.

So what exactly did the owners get? A new CBA. They didn't like the last one, so getting a new one is a win of sorts. They also get labor peace in a league that is the unquestioned sports leader for 10 years.

The NFL is an estimated $9-billion-a-year business. But projections are that it can become a $20-billion-a-year business. If that isn't reason to get labor peace, I don't know what could be the reason.

"Yeah, when you look at all the stuff, this is a good deal for us," one player told me. "There are just a few things that have to be tweaked."

Here's a guess that tweaking gets done over the weekend. And this deal will get done.

When it does, Smith should put on the championship belt. He knocked the snot out of the owners with a nasty right hook to the head.

This judge has a decision if this is the deal: Victory, players.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Laz

of course they do, children would love if they could determine their punishment when they screw up too instead of their parents. Maybe we should let people who commit a crimes determine their own punishments as well.

Jury of their peers.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Jury of their peers.

This isn't a democracy, it's a business. Can't let the inmates run the asylum. they don't want Goodell because they fear Goodell which is how it should be.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Laz

of course they do, children would love if they could determine their punishment when they screw up too instead of their parents. Maybe we should let people who commit a crimes determine their own punishments as well.

Goodell is their daddy? A committee would be a bad thing as a form of checks and balances?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Laz

when the CBA gets approved will you be sad?

I can't imagine you enjoying any football since you hate the players so much.