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Titty Meat · 04:20 PM

Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here.

I'll try to keep up this updated.

UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents

http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ee-agency1.pdf

**Free Agent Signings Recap **

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php

** Notable Rumors **

Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain

Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle

Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon

Raiders:

Other teams in the league:

Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry

Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free

Vikings acquire Mcnabb.

Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen.

Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud

Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick

Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan

Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery

Panthers trade for Greg Olsen

Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye

Bills sign Brad Smith

Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round.

Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning

Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright

Falcons sign Ray Edwards

Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall

Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown

Saints sign Darren Sproles

Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements

Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett

49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin

Titty Meat · 07-26-2011, 12:40 AM

Broncos | Interested in Willis McGahee
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:19:42 -0700

The Denver Broncos are interested in free-agent-to-be RB Willis McGahee (Ravens). The Ravens informed McGahee that he will be released from his contract Thursday, July 28.

0 Comments | Share: | Source: The Denver Post - Mike Klis

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL/?cat=free#ixzz1TBuGO9H1

chiefzilla1501 · 07-26-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

1) Hali doesnt "get banged up a lot" he bangs people up. Big difference. He has started every game of his career, but one.

2) The only position right now that can move our defense from where we are to elite is a very good nose guard. We already have the LOLBs we need to greatly improve the play from the position from what we had last year.

Hali is pretty much probable to questionable in half of the games he plays. A lot of it seems to be his foot. He seems to play well through the pain, but clearly, would be nice to be 3-deep so that you don't make him feel like he has to play through pain weak after weak.

On the LOLBs... we have no idea if we have the right LOLBs. We have a third round guy who apparently everybody missed out on 3 times and a LOLB who has pretty much proven he's quality depth at best in Studebaker. Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly comfortable walking into the season with Houston. But he definitely has huge boom/bust potential.

I think we're a little too comfortable in our pass rush to think Hali is the only pass rusher we need on this defense. We forget that there were often major stretches of a game where Hali would disappear, and there were plenty of games where we weren't even sniffing the Quarterback. And for as good as our secondary is, they don't force enough turnovers as they could and that's because there aren't a bunch of games where QBs look nervous to be in the pocket. Man, you put an elite pass rusher opposite Hali, and the QB has nowhere to go and I can guarantee you our ballhawk secondary are going to double the INTs. Maybe Houston is that guy, but maybe he isn't. I'd rather not take that chance because I'll tell you what, a good Nose Tackle (say Aubrayo Franklin) makes this defense top 10. A good Nose Tackle and a good LOLB make this defense top 3.

**BossChief** · 07-26-2011, 12:52 AM

1) all players play through pain. Its part of the game.

2) what games did we not get a pass rush in? It could always get better, but it was good every week. Hali never disappeared. Ever. He just got held every play. Houston should get around 8 sacks and balance the pass rush and enable Hali to take the next step in his career.

I think Hali can get 18-20 sacks if things fall into place next year and we add a good NT.

If you watch tape of Houston and Woodley, you will see somewhat similar players...Woodley being better against the run.

aturnis · 07-26-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Hali is pretty much probable to questionable in half of the games he plays. A lot of it seems to be his foot. He seems to play well through the pain, but clearly, would be nice to be 3-deep so that you don't make him feel like he has to play through pain weak after weak.

Are you serious? Hope this was intentional or due to lack of sleep...

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

On the LOLBs... we have no idea if we have the right LOLBs. We have a third round guy who apparently everybody missed out on 3 times and a LOLB who has pretty much proven he's quality depth at best in Studebaker. Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly comfortable walking into the season with Houston. But he definitely has huge boom/bust potential.

What? He was a consensus first round talent! The only reason he fell was b/c of a fail drop at the combine. Also, as far as pass rush goes, that is what Houston does, it's who he is, a pass rusher. If you want to question his ability, question his run stopping ability.

Hammock Parties · 07-26-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Broncos | Interested in Willis McGahee
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:19:42 -0700

The Denver Broncos are interested in free-agent-to-be RB Willis McGahee (Ravens). The Ravens informed McGahee that he will be released from his contract Thursday, July 28.

There you go, Knowmo. A nice brokedick for you to pimp and us to make fun of.

**Rausch** · 07-26-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

What? He was a consensus first round talent! The only reason he fell was b/c of a fail drop at the combine. Also, as far as pass rush goes, that is what Houston does, it's who he is, a pass rusher. If you want to question his ability, question his run stopping ability.

Or his ability to drop back in a zone.

This isn't a conventional 3-4. The idea at OLB is RANGE. What can you do?

Can I move you to MLB on 3rd down? Can I move you to DE/RushEnd? Can you cover a slow HB/FB in the flat?

This is why I love our current DC.

It's not about fitting people into places it's about getting good people and finding places for them...

**Rausch** · 07-26-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5

There you go, Knowmo. A nice brokedick for you to pimp and us to make fun of.

That is kinda' his thing, inn'it?...

chiefzilla1501 · 07-26-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

1) all players play through pain. Its part of the game.

2) what games did we not get a pass rush in? It could always get better, but it was good every week. Hali never disappeared. Ever. He just got held every play. Houston should get around 8 sacks and balance the pass rush and enable Hali to take the next step in his career.

I think Hali can get 18-20 sacks if things fall into place next year and we add a good NT.

If you watch tape of Houston and Woodley, you will see somewhat similar players...Woodley being better against the run.

I purposely point to Hali because he is probably put on the probable/questionable list more than most players with consistent starting records. He seems to have some kind of foot problem, because it always seems to be the culprit. No, it's not something I see as career threatening, but clearly the guy could use a snap or two off every once in a while.

A good NT is going to help Hali. But it doesn't do you any good if the QB is free to roll to the right every time. Houston could help, but then again, maybe not.

As for our pass rush, definitely several games. Hali is a good pass rusher, but I don't know that anyone would really call him elite. He's a guy who gets amazing production in spurts, and then disappears in others. San Diego had their way with us on pass offense their two games, and Oakland wasn't scared of our pass rush either. And it's no secret that our 3rd down pass defense is atrocious, and that's not because we have bad players in the secondary. Some of that is because Hali doesn't have any kind of help. A Nose Tackle is going to help push the pocket into the QB, but it doesn't change the fact that the next best pass rusher outside of Hali last year was our nickel corner. Our 3 D-linemen aren't pass rushers. Our 2 ILBs are adequate at the very best. We're basically relying on Houston to pick up the slack.

Next year, we dont' have the benefit of rolling over the NFC West and a bunch of bottom-feeders. I'm more worried about consistently getting a pass rush on guys like Philip Rivers. I think even if we walk in with vast improvement from a Nose Tackle, if Houston is anything short of "good", top QBs could easily walk over us.

Hammock Parties · 07-26-2011, 01:18 AM

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Oakland wasn't scared of our pass rush either.

This is not accurate at all.

Our pass rush was very good against the Raiders in both games.

Hali had 3.5 sacks against the Raiders and the Chiefs had 8.

Calling Hali anything but elite is absurd. He had a lot of sacks and was the TOP PASS RUSHER IN THE LEAGUE according to PFF:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-edge-rushers/

I do agree that Hali needs help but with Wallace Gilberry out there and good blitzers like Berry and DJ, if Houston turns into an 8-sack guy our pass rush will be awesome. There is no need to spend a 1st.

**Rausch** · 07-26-2011, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5

Hali had 3.5 sacks against the Raiders and the Chiefs had 8.

Calling Hali anything but elite is absurd. He had a lot of sacks and was the TOP PASS RUSHER IN THE LEAGUE according to PFF:

If he were playing for the Steelers he'd be on the cover of every FF mag out there...

chiefzilla1501 · 07-26-2011, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red 5

This is not accurate at all.

Our pass rush was very good against the Raiders in both games.

Hali had 3.5 sacks against the Raiders and the Chiefs had 8.

Calling Hali anything but elite is absurd. He had a lot of sacks and was the TOP PASS RUSHER IN THE LEAGUE according to PFF:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-edge-rushers/

I do agree that Hali needs help but with Wallace Gilberry out there and good blitzers like Berry and DJ, if Houston turns into an 8-sack guy our pass rush will be awesome. There is no need to spend a 1st.

If you'll recall, the Raiders threw at us at will in the second half of the first Raiders game and we were never in the game the second time around. Hali's a very good OLB, but he's nowhere near the same level as DeMarcus Ware or a James Harrison. I don't see him command the same kind of attention as those guys. He's a very good OLB, but he's not the kind that can do it alone. Not consistently at least.

We need another pass rusher. It's not a good sign when the next best pass rushers are in our secondary (Berry/Arenas). DJ and belcher aren't good pass rushers. And none of our front 3 are either (Gilberry is solid in specific situations). If Houston can be an 8-sack guy and consistently get into the backfield and force the QB to stay put, then great. I think there's an okay chance he could. But that's a lot of faith to put in a 3rd round pick. Without a second pass rush threat, we're doomed to be the same defense that shows flashes of brilliance and then has other games where we make a backup Jaguars QB look like he belongs in the Super Bowl.

|Zach| · 07-26-2011, 01:32 AM

I have a Chiefs football boner.

Can't wait for all this shit to happen leading up to the season.

**Rausch** · 07-26-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If you'll recall, the Raiders threw at us at will in the second half of the first Raiders game and we were never in the game the second time around. Hali's a very good OLB, but he's nowhere near the same level as DeMarcus Ware or a James Harrison. I don't see him command the same kind of attention as those guys. He's a very good OLB, but he's not the kind that can do it alone. Not consistently at least.

We need another pass rusher. It's not a good sign when the next best pass rushers are in our secondary (Berry/Arenas). DJ and belcher aren't good pass rushers. And none of our front 3 are either (Gilberry is solid in specific situations). If Houston can be an 8-sack guy and consistently get into the backfield and force the QB to stay put, then great. I think there's an okay chance he could. But that's a lot of faith to put in a 3rd round pick. Without a second pass rush threat, we're doomed to be the same defense that shows flashes of brilliance and then has other games where we make a backup Jaguars QB look like he belongs in the Super Bowl.

Save OL, WR, and QB the Raiders pretty much have more talent at almost every position.

They're held back by their $hitty QB and line (that can run block, but pass blocks for $#it.)

And coaching.

Like the Chargers...

**BossChief** · 07-26-2011, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red 5

This is not accurate at all.

Our pass rush was very good against the Raiders in both games.

Hali had 3.5 sacks against the Raiders and the Chiefs had 8.

Calling Hali anything but elite is absurd. He had a lot of sacks and was the TOP PASS RUSHER IN THE LEAGUE according to PFF:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-edge-rushers/

I do agree that Hali needs help but with Wallace Gilberry out there and good blitzers like Berry and DJ, if Houston turns into an 8-sack guy our pass rush will be awesome. There is no need to spend a 1st.

I know its all rumors right now, but Ive heard it mentioned a couple places that more than one team has contacted Gilberry.

Pretty sure we tendered him at a 2nd round pick, so if the talk is true and someone signs him we get a second rounder, right?

**Rausch** · 07-26-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I know its all rumors right now, but Ive heard it mentioned a couple places that more than one team has contacted Gilberry.

Pretty sure we tendered him at a 2nd round pick, so if the talk is true and someone signs him we get a second rounder, right?

NO ****ING WAY...

07-25-2011, 10:26 AM
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1052442	** The Official Free Agency Thread Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here. I'll try to keep up this updated. UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ee-agency1.pdf Free Agent Signings Recap http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php Notable Rumors Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon Raiders: Other teams in the league:** Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free Vikings acquire Mcnabb. Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen. Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery Panthers trade for Greg Olsen Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye Bills sign Brad Smith Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round. Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright Falcons sign Ray Edwards Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown Saints sign Darren Sproles Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett 49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin Last edited by Titty Meat; 08-03-2011 at 04:20 PM..
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1052442	Broncos \| Interested in Willis McGahee Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:19:42 -0700 The Denver Broncos are interested in free-agent-to-be RB Willis McGahee (Ravens). The Ravens informed McGahee that he will be released from his contract Thursday, July 28. 0 Comments \| Share: \| Source: The Denver Post - Mike Klis Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL/?cat=free#ixzz1TBuGO9H1
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1645912	1) all players play through pain. Its part of the game. 2) what games did we not get a pass rush in? It could always get better, but it was good every week. Hali never disappeared. Ever. He just got held every play. Houston should get around 8 sacks and balance the pass rush and enable Hali to take the next step in his career. I think Hali can get 18-20 sacks if things fall into place next year and we add a good NT. If you watch tape of Houston and Woodley, you will see somewhat similar players...Woodley being better against the run. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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