Peyton Manning will need to undergo another procedure on his neck

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Brady definitely stunk it up in the losses to the Broncos and the Ravens. A couple of things, though. First, Brady's 14-5. There's no comparing that to 9-10. He's clearly not dragging his team down in general. Second, Brady was hurt in the 2007 SB, was harassed all game long, and still led the offense down for the go ahead score with about 3 minutes left to go in the game. Manning was healthy in 2009 when he marched his team down the field and then threw a pick 6 against the Saints. To say that Manning was not a drag on the team that game just doesn't pass the smell test. He shit himself in the Super Bowl when he had a chance to tie that game, and that killed his team.

Manning has thrown for 8 touchdowns, 10 interceptions in his losses, and for 19/8 in his wins. A team built around the pass, and with Peyton Manning at the helm, is averaging less than 1 touchdown per game in its playoff losses, and more than 2 per game in its playoff wins.

That offense is killing the team in the losses, and that's on Manning.

Well, Brady's team was originally built around defense and special teams and was given a defense capable of holding the Rams to 17 points. There's no comparing 14-5 to 9-10 because even Matt Cassel went 11-5 as the starter of the Patriots.

Yes, of course Brady has been more clutch, but I just think there's more to it... yeah, it's pretty damn impressive to do that against the Giants, like you said, or even the Rams when you're trying to slay Goliath. At the same time, he wasn't everything to those teams.

I think a big part of Manning's career has been being the one guy that carries the Colts... he's always put it solely on himself to win games since he hasn't often been able to rely on a running game or defense. That's obviously a flaw when you're the one calling the plays and end up pushing too hard and throwing a pick or taking a sack late in the game, and that's all some people choose to see. I look at that line against the Chargers and it's a little mind boggling.... 402 yards, 3 TDs, (with 50 yards of run support)... and they still managed to lose the game. I guess when you say "that's on Manning," you're right... so much of it has always been on Manning... and I'm not saying he's never gotten any support, but a big part of the 'choking' is the fact that the team wasn't ever built for the playoffs.