Chiefs Raiders Trade for Carson Palmer - Page 89

**doomy3** · 09:52 AM

Per Rotoworld, the Raiders are close to acquiring Carson Palmer.

On my phone, so no link, but what the hell do the Raiders have left to trade?

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Schefter reporting that trade is completed. 2012 first and 2013 conditional first.

Amazing.

jd1020 · 10-20-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Really?

Because the only reason anyone thinks they are play-off caliber team is by making it somewhere without good play from Black Cassel.

I don't think the Raider's success can unarguably be tied to Palmer playing well.

Ya. The QB doesn't have much effect on a teams success.................. That's why the Chiefs, with arguably one of the more talented offenses, are 5-0 right now with Cassel.

jspchief · 10-20-2011, 10:55 AM

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Ya. The QB doesn't have much effect on a teams success..................

Which is nothing close to what I said.

All I'm saying is, if you want the escalator of a conditional draft pick to depend on a player's performance, tie it to his performance. As it is currently reported, it's tied to team success, which can happen even if Palmer himself doesn't nothing. What if he gets injured, and Terrel Pryor leads them to the championship? According to you and Raider fan, it was still worth it.

jd1020 · 10-20-2011, 11:00 AM

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Which is nothing close to what I said.

All I'm saying is, if you want the escalator of a conditional draft pick to depend on a player's performance, tie it to his performance. As it is currently reported, it's tied to team success, which can happen even if Palmer himself doesn't nothing. What if he gets injured, and Terrel Pryor leads them to the championship? According to you and Raider fan, it was still worth it.

Now you are talking about injuries?

Berry's career was potentially ruined. Was he worth a 1st?

Okie_Apparition · 10-20-2011, 11:03 AM

BAN HIM!

Chronic · 10-20-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm amazed by this 2nd draft pick that has suddenly disappeared.

Dexter Mcluster..2nd rd pick 2010. 247 total yards in his career
Turk McBride - 2nd rd pick - 2007
Bernard Pollard - 2nd rd pick - 2006
Junior Siavi - 2nd rd pick - 2003
Kris Wilson - 2nd rd pick - 2003
Kawika Mitchell - 2nd rd pic - 2003
Eddie Freeman - 2nd rd pic - 2002
William Bartee - 2nd rd pick - 2000

The Chiefs took the pipe in the brown star fish on their 2nd rd picks and you wanna go and tell the Raiders how stupid they are... Gotcha bro

Chronic · 10-20-2011, 11:35 AM

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They have to make the AFC championship game right? Not win it....Hmmm...What if they make the AFC championship game, lose...and Palmer plays like shit? Don't get me wrong ..I'd love to see my team win a playoff game....I dunno if it would be worth it though.

If they make the AFCC like they did 8 years ago.. It'll be more than the Chiefs ever did in 40 years

Okie_Apparition · 10-20-2011, 11:39 AM

When are the Raiders going to beat a team with a winning record
next two games are against teams with loosing records
Until then they're paper tigers or 2010 Chiefs at best

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-20-2011, 12:58 PM

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If they make the AFCC like they did 8 years ago.. It'll be more than the Chiefs ever did in 40 years

9 yrs, dumbass

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-20-2011, 01:05 PM

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The second pick is a conditional 2nd round that could be a 1st. If that pick becomes a first I would say the trade was worth it, considering what has to be done to make that pick a 1st.

Don't go full reerun. The only way this trade pans out for Oakland is if they win the SB with Palmer.

The Chiefs failed with Montana and with Green.

You trade a 1st rd pick, especially 2 1st rounders, you better win it all with this guy.

Chronic · 10-20-2011, 01:21 PM

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9 yrs, dumbass

Jan 2003 you geek

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-20-2011, 01:28 PM

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Jan 2003 you geek

It was the 02 season dipshit.

Ugly Duck · 10-20-2011, 01:38 PM

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Raiders fans are quick to say "if we win a Superbowl this year, it's worth it". But if you apply the same standards that you would to two 1st round draft picks, it's clear that it is not worth it.

Heck - I'd trade a slew of 1st round picks for another SuperBowl win. World Championships are rare animals, picks are not.

Chronic · 10-20-2011, 02:15 PM

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It was the 02 season dipshit.

Thats not what you said sweetheart

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-20-2011, 02:27 PM

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Thats not what you said sweetheart

You moron. The 2002 season was 9 yrs ago.

TheGuardian · 10-20-2011, 02:38 PM

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Don't go full reerun. The only way this trade pans out for Oakland is if they win the SB with Palmer.

The Chiefs failed with Montana and with Green.

You trade a 1st rd pick, especially 2 1st rounders, you better win it all with this guy.

I don't think the Raider fans get this.

this isn't like a trade for the next 3 years. The Raiders bet the farm for the next 20 years or so that THIS is the guy. And he's not. Enjoy.

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