Chiefs Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?

Brock · 12-08-2011, 12:59 AM

Franchise record low scoring offense.

Think about the coaches this team has had in the past, and this supposed offensive genius has done worse than they have.

Injuries, no injuries, that's unfathomable. If this team keeps him around for the last year of his contract, it will be for the same reason Carolina and Tennessee kept their lame duck coaches around: They were simply too ****ing cheap to pay them to just go away.

12-08-2011, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Franchise record low scoring offense.

If he gets the boot this will be a good enough reason. But if the lack of offensive prowess were really his fault I think that his players would give up. The fact that they haven't suggests that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, the players just aren't executing and getting the job done.

Hammock Parties · 12-08-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

If he gets the boot this will be a good enough reason. But if the lack of offensive prowess were really his fault I think that his players would give up. The fact that they haven't suggests that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, the players just aren't executing and getting the job done.

I don't see a lot of fight in Bowe. Doesn't look enthused at all.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-08-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

I don't see a lot of fight in Bowe. Doesn't look enthused at all.

12-08-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

I don't see a lot of fight in Bowe. Doesn't look enthused at all.

Don't really care what you think you see. You're a pitbull in the henhouse. You reach for the easiest hen and lock down. Then you grab another. It's actually comical.

Hammock Parties · 12-08-2011, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Don't really care what you think you see. You're a pitbull in the henhouse. You reach for the easiest hen and lock down. Then you grab another. It's actually comical.

So you're telling me you see the same Dwayne Bowe out there?

Because I sure don't.

Bowe is an energizer bunny typically. He looks sad these days.

**HemiEd** · 12-08-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

So you're telling me you see the same Dwayne Bowe out there?

Because I sure don't.

Bowe is an energizer bunny typically. He looks sad these days.

That has everything to do with Huard, Thigpen, Croyle, Cassel, and now Palko.
Nothing to do with Haley. Haley has done a lot of good with Bowe. Bowe is clearly sick of substandard QB play.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-08-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Franchise record low scoring offense.

Think about the coaches this team has had in the past, and this supposed offensive genius has done worse than they have.

Injuries, no injuries, that's unfathomable. If this team keeps him around for the last year of his contract, it will be for the same reason Carolina and Tennessee kept their lame duck coaches around: They were simply too ****ing cheap to pay them to just go away.

It's missing its MVP and shitty QB play. Think about that.

Brock · 12-08-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

It's missing its MVP and shitty QB play. Think about that.

They're unable to coach up the backups like other teams do. Another reason not to keep him around.

This offense has more than enough talent to do better than a franchise record low. There's really no excuse for this, not for a guy who's supposedly this offensive mastermind.

Hammock Parties · 12-08-2011, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

They're unable to coach up the backups like other teams do. Another reason not to keep him around.

I don't expect Haley to coach up Tyler Palko.

I do expect him to have the sense to know he should be flinging footballs in the UFL.

Palko is clearly a Haley guy. He's not even here if Haley doesn't run into him in Arizona.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-08-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

They're unable to coach up the backups like other teams do. Another reason not to keep him around.

This offense has more than enough talent to do better than a franchise record low. There's really no excuse for this, not for a guy who's supposedly this offensive mastermind.

What do you mean "coach up" backups?

You mean a journeyman who can't throw over 30 yards and a 5th round rookie?

There is an excuse. It's that Pioli walked into the season so arrogant about his QB that he didn't seem to think our QB situation was a problem.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-08-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Franchise record low scoring offense.

Think about the coaches this team has had in the past, and this supposed offensive genius has done worse than they have.

Injuries, no injuries, that's unfathomable. If this team keeps him around for the last year of his contract, it will be for the same reason Carolina and Tennessee kept their lame duck coaches around: They were simply too ****ing cheap to pay them to just go away.

It's fathomable. It's amazing to me that there are a million and a half threads about the importance of a franchise QB, yet the same people think Haley should win games in spite of it. And considering how untalented our RBs are right now, we also happen to have a #11 ranked run offense, which is actually kind of amazing.

I don't care about offensive production. What's more important is what puts our team in the best position to win. Haley seems convinced that the key is to keep the ball out of the hands of our QB. And that seems to be a smart concept. If Haley had a QB he can go vertical with, I guarantee you this offense would look completely different.

Brock · 12-08-2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It's fathomable. It's amazing to me that there are a million and a half threads about the importance of a franchise QB, yet the same people think Haley should win games in spite of it. And considering how untalented our RBs are right now, we also happen to have a #11 ranked run offense, which is actually kind of amazing.

I don't care about offensive production. What's more important is what puts our team in the best position to win. Haley seems convinced that the key is to keep the ball out of the hands of our QB. And that seems to be a smart concept. If Haley had a QB he can go vertical with, I guarantee you this offense would look completely different.

I'm not talking about winning games. I'm talking about putting an offense on the field that looks like it's playing the same game the other team is playing.

Spare me the excuses, he went into the season with Tyler Palko as his number two, he's a dipshit.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-08-2011, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I'm not talking about winning games. I'm talking about putting an offense on the field that looks like it's playing the same game the other team is playing.

Spare me the excuses, he went into the season with Tyler Palko as his number two, he's a dipshit.

Yeah. Because he's the one who writes the checks.

Brock · 12-08-2011, 01:28 AM

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Yeah. Because he's the one who writes the checks.

Yeah. I bet he has no say at all on his backup QB. Of course.

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