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yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:56 PM   #601
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For the record, you know why the Chiefs get blown out so often? Because: 1) we have NEVER had a QB capable of clawing a team from behind; 2) because in most cases, we are so outmatched in talent that the only way to win games is through winning by putting twice the effort into the game as the opponent.

When you have to win by motivation, and not because of talent, that's a great recipe for disaster.
FTR, the preseason plan was a failure, and was responsible for the blowout losses at the beginning of the season.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:56 PM   #602
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Record setting offensive ineptitude.


For this reason alone Haley should be shitcanned.
How much of this is because of players?
How much of this is because of coaching?
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:57 PM   #603
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Record setting offensive ineptitude.


For this reason alone Haley should be shitcanned.
Can't blame it all on the offense today. The defense has looked like shit too. And special teams.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:57 PM   #604
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How much of this is because of players?
How much of this is because of coaching?
It's both. Pioli and Haley both deserve to be fired, but we're only going to get the latter, and it's definitely justified.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:58 PM   #605
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How much of this is because of players?
How much of this is because of coaching?
Seriously?


JFC, words can't describe.


THE WORST OFFENSE IN NFL MOTHER ****ING HISTORY!
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:59 PM   #606
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THE WORST OFFENSE IN NFL MOTHER ****ING HISTORY!
You got some stats to back that up?
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:00 PM   #607
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It's both. Pioli and Haley both deserve to be fired, but we're only going to get the latter, and it's definitely justified.
The point being that you have no idea how the head coach would respond with better players, who allow you to actually do things with your playbook other than grind the ball on the ground because you don't trust your QB.

I would still argue that putting the Chiefs in the playoffs last year and winning 5 games this year with the kind of talent we have is nothing short of a miracle. We win games because we outplay other teams. I can't think of any legit playoff teams where our team comes even CLOSE to the talent level they have.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:00 PM   #608
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Have you been watching the Chiefs this season?

Buffalo game? Detroit game? Miami game? New England game?

Blowouts.

This isn't a one game thing.
And... in the last 6 games the Chiefs haven't scored more than 10 points.
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Seriously?


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THE WORST OFFENSE IN NFL MOTHER ****ING HISTORY!
Behind one of the worst starters in NFL history.

And the reason that guy is starting is because of a complete disregard by our front office for 3 years to do ANYTHING about our backup QB position, except draft a QB (finally) in the 5th round.
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WRONG answer BITCH

You have no answer.

You throw out a dumbshit cliche statement about Haley having the team motivated and then can't back it up.

Please explain how after the fifth blowout loss of the season, the Chiefs still look "motivated" under Haley?

Explain yourself you DUMBSHIT whore.
Why would I want to waste my time trying to explain anything to you?
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Can't blame it all on the offense today. The defense has looked like shit too. And special teams.
You can't be serious...

The Jets matched the Chiefs first half offensive yards with TD's in the first half.
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You got some stats to back that up?
Whoops, I'm sorry.

Indy scored 143 back in 1991.


When they allowed D-Backs to man-handle WR's and QB's were allowed to be hit. Oh ya, QB's weren't allowed to throw the ball away when out of the pocket, either.



Hmmmmmm.
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The point being that you have no idea how the head coach would respond with better players, who allow you to actually do things with your playbook other than grind the ball on the ground because you don't trust your QB.

I would still argue that putting the Chiefs in the playoffs last year and winning 5 games this year with the kind of talent we have is nothing short of a miracle. We win games because we outplay other teams. I can't think of any legit playoff teams where our team comes even CLOSE to the talent level they have.
Two of the wins this years were, literally, statistical miracles (SD and CHI). The bottom line is that when a team fails as miserably as the Chiefs have, large changes have to happen, and Haley has been complicit with the overall suck. Because he...wait for it...sucks.
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The defense gave up around 300 yards of offense today.
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Sadly, Haley will be brought back next year and the injuries will be an excuse.
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