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**BossChief** · 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

**007** · 12-11-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Extend Haley

get a rope

chiefscafan · 12-11-2011, 03:29 PM

I'm done with Haley he's lost control of this team

Discuss Thrower · 12-11-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

I'm done with Haley he's lost control of this team

Care to provide evidence for that?

**notorious** · 12-11-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

If you're done, then be done?

It's still a great site with some awesome posters.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-11-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Why does Haley deserve a 2 year extension? You are ****ing reeruned.

"I'm not convinced Haley is a long-term answer. But we should extend him."

I'm not convinced he's a long-term answer, but again, he has done enough to prove he has the upside to. But you can't ignore the fact that he has been SEVERELY crippled by his front office. I believe in people taking accountability for their mistakes. Firing the head coach when the heart of the problem is the front office's brutally wrong decisions at QB and NT is just throwing a guy under the bus.

But our front office isn't going to do that.

Brock · 12-11-2011, 03:31 PM

He needs to go. He's going to go. And it will be no loss at all.

jd1020 · 12-11-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm not convinced he's a long-term answer, but again, he has done enough to prove he has the upside to. But you can't ignore the fact that he has been SEVERELY crippled by his front office. I believe in people taking accountability for their mistakes. Firing the head coach when the heart of the problem is the front office's brutally wrong decisions at QB and NT is just throwing a guy under the bus.

But our front office isn't going to do that.

Haley is the one who continually stands behind Palko. Just throwing that out there for you to think about.

**notorious** · 12-11-2011, 03:33 PM

We all understand that Haley lost some major talent very early in the year.

What MOST of us understand is that a good coach can still manage to build some promise for the future even if we aren't winning.

Discuss Thrower · 12-11-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Haley is the one who continually stands behind Palko. Just throwing that out there for you to think about.

Is a coach expected to throw him under the bus or something..

jd1020 · 12-11-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Is a coach expected to throw him under the bus or something..

A coach is expected to put the team in the best position to win. Starting Palko, hell... playing Palko at all, is not putting the team in the best position to win.

milkman · 12-11-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Haley is the one who continually stands behind Palko. Just throwing that out there for you to think about.

Haley will be gone after the season is over.
I'm almost certain of that.

But, it's rare that you get a coach to throw a player under the bus, even when that player deserves ot be thrown there.

Titty Meat · 12-11-2011, 03:34 PM

The Chiefs were getting blown out at the end of last year and this year with their best players so.....

**notorious** · 12-11-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

A coach is expected to put the team in the best position to win. Starting Palko, hell... playing Palko at all, is not putting the team in the best position to win.

This.

jd1020 · 12-11-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Haley will be gone after the season is over.
I'm almost certain of that.

But, it's rare that you get a coach to throw a player under the bus, even when that player deserves ot be thrown there.

Who said anything about throwing Palko under the bus? You don't have to throw someone under the bus to go in a different direction.

Titty Meat · 12-11-2011, 03:36 PM

I don't think Haley should be fired cuz we're only 1-1 in the quarter.

View Poll Results: Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built.	142	61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please.	79	34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks.	11	4.74%
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12-07-2011, 11:54 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1615912	Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable. His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones. For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience. This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on. All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL. I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)? I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out. Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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12-11-2011, 03:29 PM	#647
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	I'm done with Haley he's lost control of this team
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notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-814116	We all understand that Haley lost some major talent very early in the year. What MOST of us understand is that a good coach can still manage to build some promise for the future even if we aren't winning.
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12-11-2011, 03:36 PM	#660
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1032442	I don't think Haley should be fired cuz we're only 1-1 in the quarter.
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