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Old 01-10-2012, 08:35 AM   #1
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Marcus Allen...
Dave Szott, Will Shields. Can't run if you can't block, but an excellent RB can make a big diff, as did Allen.

Richardson didn't impress me, until the TD dash. He had an excellent seal.

Wonder how Ingram will fare, in his healing up.

One thing about RB's: Allen was the exception to the rule, in his longevity.

The combine will tell us if Richardson will do well enough, that we can draft him.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:20 AM   #2
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If Trent Richardson is there when we pick we should take him. Best running back in college.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:34 AM   #3
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:01 AM   #4
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RB isn't necessarily worth a top 12 pick. The fact is that RBs in general just aren't as valuable as they were even 10-20 years ago.

That said, the Pats were ready to take Stephen Jackson in 2004 until Vince Wilfork slipped to them, and then took Laurence Maroney in the 20s in whatever woe-begotten year that was (2006 I think), so clearly BB (FWIW) is willing to spend a 1st on RB.

But with JC in the house already, and with ACL usually not ruining a career (see Welker, Wes), I'm not sure it's where the Chiefs need to focus their draft choice investments.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:23 AM   #5
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RB isn't necessarily worth a top 12 pick. The fact is that RBs in general just aren't as valuable as they were even 10-20 years ago.

That said, the Pats were ready to take Stephen Jackson in 2004 until Vince Wilfork slipped to them, and then took Laurence Maroney in the 20s in whatever woe-begotten year that was (2006 I think), so clearly BB (FWIW) is willing to spend a 1st on RB.

But with JC in the house already, and with ACL usually not ruining a career (see Welker, Wes), I'm not sure it's where the Chiefs need to focus their draft choice investments.
The thing is JC hasn't shown or giving the opportunity that he can carry the rock 20 or 25 times a game. Plus our depth behind him is really crap. Richardson will be a stud. Yea we can get a back later but he could be maroney part 2. Grab and o-line in the second.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:30 AM   #6
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The thing is JC hasn't shown or giving the opportunity that he can carry the rock 20 or 25 times a game. Plus our depth behind him is really crap. Richardson will be a stud. Yea we can get a back later but he could be maroney part 2. Grab and o-line in the second.
Enough of a stud that they'll decide we don't need a QB. We can do like the Vikings and take our monster RB and continue to win 4-6 games a season until he's done.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:33 AM   #7
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As much as I like Trent Richardson, RB is a position that can easily be found in the mid rounds to late.

Plus it's a position where your guy will likely be done in 5 years.

Can't invest a first in that.
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:15 AM   #8
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As much as I like Trent Richardson, RB is a position that can easily be found in the mid rounds to late.

Plus it's a position where your guy will likely be done in 5 years.

Can't invest a first in that.
Agreed.
I'd love to have him, but you just can't go there unless you're a team with few holes.
As anticlimactic as it'll be...give me an Offensive Tackle there.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:07 PM   #9
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Agreed.
I'd love to have him, but you just can't go there unless you're a team with few holes.
As anticlimactic as it'll be...give me an Offensive Tackle there.
So take a right tackle which you can get in the 4th round over a gamer changer? That doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:41 PM   #10
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So take a right tackle which you can get in the 4th round over a gamer changer? That doesn't make sense.
A right tackle doesn't dictate offensive philosophy. A RB like Richardson does.

Ask the Vikings how much they're enjoying the playoffs. Or ask the Jags.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:08 PM   #11
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A right tackle doesn't dictate offensive philosophy. A RB like Richardson does.

Ask the Vikings how much they're enjoying the playoffs. Or ask the Jags.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:23 PM   #12
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As much as I like Trent Richardson, RB is a position that can easily be found in the mid rounds to late.

Plus it's a position where your guy will likely be done in 5 years.

Can't invest a first in that.
Kind of tired of seeing people spout this over and over again. Yes, Good backs can be found in later rounds.

ELITE backs...not so much.

Trent Richardson is an Elite back.

He is an Elite talent and the Chiefs would be reeruned not to pick him there. The guy is instant offense, similar to the way Berry was instant Defense.

If Orton is re-signed, having a tandem of backs like JC and Richardson would allow a guy like Orton (who uses the Play Action very effectivly) to open up the passing game.

This whole theory that taking an elite back will set this franchise back is full of holes.

What if Cassel or Orton goes down and Stanzi/Rookie Qb have to start? Having a pair of backs like that will make their job a Lot easier.
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Kind of tired of seeing people spout this over and over again. Yes, Good backs can be found in later rounds.

ELITE backs...not so much.

Trent Richardson is an Elite back.

He is an Elite talent and the Chiefs would be reeruned not to pick him there. The guy is instant offense, similar to the way Berry was instant Defense.

If Orton is re-signed, having a tandem of backs like JC and Richardson would allow a guy like Orton (who uses the Play Action very effectivly) to open up the passing game.

This whole theory that taking an elite back will set this franchise back is full of holes.

What if Cassel or Orton goes down and Stanzi/Rookie Qb have to start? Having a pair of backs like that will make their job a Lot easier.
Great post.

If Richardson can beast in the red zone then Orton becomes a much better QB.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:27 PM   #14
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Kind of tired of seeing people spout this over and over again. Yes, Good backs can be found in later rounds.

ELITE backs...not so much.

Trent Richardson is an Elite back.

He is an Elite talent and the Chiefs would be reeruned not to pick him there. The guy is instant offense, similar to the way Berry was instant Defense.

If Orton is re-signed, having a tandem of backs like JC and Richardson would allow a guy like Orton (who uses the Play Action very effectivly) to open up the passing game.

This whole theory that taking an elite back will set this franchise back is full of holes.

What if Cassel or Orton goes down and Stanzi/Rookie Qb have to start? Having a pair of backs like that will make their job a Lot easier.

Excellent. With the new slotting system, you aren't paying eleventy-billion dollars for them, either.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:39 PM   #15
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Having a pair of backs like that will make their job a Lot easier.
A lot easier to win 8-9 games a year, fill the stadium, and never have to hassle with finding a real QB.

Yep, that sounds like a great plan.
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