Chiefs We are in a GREAT position - Page 3

durtyrute · 11:34 AM

I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on.

When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked.

Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again.

This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city.

Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead.

We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi.

Now the draft a QB thing. The ****ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too.

I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then.....

**DeezNutz** · 01-10-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I don't get all the Pioli hate. Did you forget Carl Peterson and his abyssmal drafts and player acquisitions?

Nope. I'm reminded of Carl every time I see or hear Pioli, who is his doppelganger.

**HemiEd** · 01-10-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic

The first 37 years of evidence aren't exactly relevant. You can't hold Pioli accountable for the mistakes that were made before he got here.

We can hold him accountable for making the same mistakes they were making before he got here.

It is not hard to understand really, he could have spent 2 days reading, and found out what they were.

They appear to be mandated.

scho63 · 01-10-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic

The first 37 years of evidence aren't exactly relevant. You can't hold Pioli accountable for the mistakes that were made before he got here.

Oh really? This franchise has been ruled by only one family and it's their record we have to go by. if the Hunt Family was an employee for any company and we needed to evaluate their record, the answer would be; "YOU'RE FIRED!"

"Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it"-Winston Churchill

htismaqe · 01-10-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Buncha of negative nellys around here. You know what everybody on this board needs? a lithium, or maybe a diet coke

A new QB would heal A LOT of wounds.

scho63 · 01-10-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

A new QB would heal A LOT of wounds.

I really don't care who's our coach, who's our QB, who's our GM, I just want to fucking start winning playoff games and get a Super Bowl before I die!!!

durtyrute · 01-10-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Yeah.... you repeated that several times in the OP....

I guess just doing "what looks like it could work" is perfectly acceptable in your eyes, results be damned?

Great way to run a franchise....

How would you do it? Pick something that looks like it won't work? That doesn't make a damn bit of sense. If you think it will work, you go for it. Why is that hard to understand.

**RealSNR** · 01-10-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

I really don't care who's our coach, who's our QB, who's our GM, I just want to fucking start winning playoff games and get a Super Bowl before I die!!!

You should start caring about the QB more. It's the only way we're going to reach a Super Bowl.

**loochy** · 01-10-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

I just want to fucking start winning playoff games and get a Super Bowl before I die!!!

Then you should care who the coach, QB, and GM are.

Hydrae · 01-10-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

We are in GREAT shape??? Are you smoking crack????

1971-2011
40 years
11 playoff appearances
3-11 = .214 winning percentage
18 fucking years without a playoff win
ONE Conference Championship game (thanks to Joe Montana-who by the way has 66% of our playoff wins in the last 40 years)
ZERO Super Bowl appearances

Yeah, I feel real great.....

This is the poster child of what the OP was talking about. We Chiefs fans can get so wrapped up in our past that we neglect to look forward sometimes (often).

Yes, we are in great shape. We almost won our division with three (four if you want to count the worthless QB) of our best players on the sideline for the entire season. With them coming back, and our youngsters with another year of experience, we have a solid shot at a very good season coming up. But around here it is all doom and gloom. Buck up folks, this team is moving in the right direction and should have a solid future ahead.

Now if only we had a competent QB...

boogblaster · 01-10-2012, 01:57 PM

we need a QB and some OL .. and our injured players bak healthy ... D is pretty much ok ......

Rasputin · 01-10-2012, 02:03 PM

With the new rookie cap space in place, there is absolutely no excuse for us not to go out of our way to draft a highly touted QBotf.

htismaqe · 01-10-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

This is the poster child of what the OP was talking about. We Chiefs fans can get so wrapped up in our past that we neglect to look forward sometimes (often).

Yes, we are in great shape. We almost won our division with three (four if you want to count the worthless QB) of our best players on the sideline for the entire season. With them coming back, and our youngsters with another year of experience, we have a solid shot at a very good season coming up. But around here it is all doom and gloom. Buck up folks, this team is moving in the right direction and should have a solid future ahead.

Now if only we had a competent QB...

I keep hearing that this team is built to win and we're in good shape for the future and then it's all qualified with "but we still need a QB".

Does everybody realize that the part in bold is quite possibly the MOST difficult thing to fix in all of football? Without the QB, we're not "built" for anything. We're not in great shape, AT ALL.

NJChiefsFan · 01-10-2012, 02:28 PM

To me we are in a so close, yet so far situation. If you add a QB to this team, then we become serious contenders right away IMO(assuming Bowe and Carr are back and the injuried are healthy). If we don't have a QB, we are floating around with no real hope.

If you want to feel good about this team go play Madden 2010 and look at the roster. The issue is that the QB position, as mentioned above, is the hardest position to fix. The other major problem is our organization has shown no real determination to fix it.

durtyrute · 01-10-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

To me we are in a so close, yet so far situation. If you add a QB to this team, then we become serious contenders right away IMO(assuming Bowe and Carr are back and the injuried are healthy). If we don't have a QB, we are floating around with no real hope.

If you want to feel good about this team go play Madden 2010 and look at the roster. The issue is that the QB position, as mentioned above, is the hardest position to fix. The other major problem is our organization has shown no real determination to fix it.

I can't really agree with you stance here. Matty Light did the electric slide into the Probowl last year. Then this year he played worse, got hurt, then we picked up Orton. What more could they have done this year. You couldn't cut Matt Castaway after he went to the Pro-Bowl.

Simplicity · 01-10-2012, 02:43 PM

Oh my gawdddd. Deeznutz stop your btchin... All you guys ever do is ASSUME and jump to CONCLUSIONS....
Cassel is not as bad as you guys say he is.
Pioli is fine.
Hunt is fine...
NOW

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01-10-2012, 11:28 AM
durtyrute MVP Join Date: Mar 2011 Casino cash: $5636085	We are in a GREAT position I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on. When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked. Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again. This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city. Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead. We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi. Now the draft a QB thing. The ***ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too. I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then..... Last edited by durtyrute; 01-10-2012 at 11:34 AM..*
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NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $4500423	To me we are in a so close, yet so far situation. If you add a QB to this team, then we become serious contenders right away IMO(assuming Bowe and Carr are back and the injuried are healthy). If we don't have a QB, we are floating around with no real hope. If you want to feel good about this team go play Madden 2010 and look at the roster. The issue is that the QB position, as mentioned above, is the hardest position to fix. The other major problem is our organization has shown no real determination to fix it.
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01-10-2012, 02:43 PM	#45
Simplicity Iowa B1G West Champs Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Front Range of Colorado Casino cash: $9170151	Oh my gawdddd. Deeznutz stop your btchin... All you guys ever do is ASSUME and jump to CONCLUSIONS.... Cassel is not as bad as you guys say he is. Pioli is fine. Hunt is fine... NOW .
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