drafting Trent Richardson

[jlscorpio]

just saw the 2nd different mock that has us taking T-Rich 2.0 w/our 1st pick. I'm not opposed to it since no all-world DT is available this year. Here's the write up from Foxsports:

11. Kansas City Chiefs*: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Chiefs lost Jamaal Charles in the second week of the 2011 NFL season, and the offense never rebounded. Charles should be back and healthy next season, but Richardson is the rare running back talent who can completely change an offense. The way this mock draft has unfolded, he’ll be slipping out of the Top 10 — something few scouts or experts expect. A different type of back from Charles, the two could work together to form a dynamic duo in the Kansas City backfield. Though Charles signed a five-year, $32 million extension in 2010, he’s not making the Adrian Peterson/Chris Johnson money you might expect. Richardson, a between-the-tackles grinder, is viewed as a much better pro prospect than his former teammate, Mark Ingram. In the rough-and-tumble AFC West, I love the thought of a Charles-Richardson platoon.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No one has said that. Yes we need help at RB, but that can be found in rounds 4-7 or UDFA.

Outside of QB that can be said about almost any position. Since we are drafting #11 why not get an elite talent at a position of need. Our options are RT, NT, or RB as the two stud QBs will be gone and this team seems dead set on keeping Cassel in spite of what everyone sees. Since they refuse to address the QB situation, why not give the crap sandwich that we have under center even more help.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No one has said that. Yes we need help at RB, but that can be found in rounds 4-7 or UDFA.

Decent RB's can be found there, sure.

But ELITE? Sorry, no.

The best backs in the NFL were drafted between rounds 1-2. Not 4-7.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I wouldn't be opposed to it, IF he's healthy. I tend to think he won't ever be the same.

I'd just as soon take an OL and try to sign Orton.

Anything but Richardson. That's how strongly I feel about it. I'm not ready for another decade like the 90's, getting fooled into thinking we're a contender when we're not.

Here's the problem with your thought process.

The Chiefs have been doing the same damn thing for 25 years, when they last drafted a first round QB.

They are going to draft O-Lineman, after having spent money in free agency on a receiver, and drafting another.

They are going to do everything they can to help Cassel, and the Chiefs by extension, achieve mediocrity.

These guys are never going to fix the QB position.
They are always going to use the bandiad approach, cause if they haven't figured out it isn' working yet, they are never going to figure it out.

We are ****ed, pure and simple.

Embrace the ****.


The definition of "In Kansas City"...Keep signing reject QBs and expect different results.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

So let me get this straight...CP Thinks that we should trout out an offense (that will inevitably be led my Matt Cassel) that features Jackie Battle and a RB who's coming off an ACL surgery who has NEVER carried the load......that's a good idea?

Get real. Look, I hope JC returns 100%, but the odds of that aren't great. On top of that, you really trust a back coming off of ACL surgery to handle 350+ carries?

Because with Cassel at QB, that's what we'll be facing.

Like it or not CP, we need a RB. They should have got one last draft, they didn't, and look what happened.

Richardson would be the BPA at a position of need.

If you think our running game is "fine" then you might as well just stop watching football.

who said we don't need a RB?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Outside of QB that can be said about almost any position. Since we are drafting #11 why not get an elite talent at a position of need. Our options are RT, NT, or RB as the two stud QBs will be gone and this team seems dead set on keeping Cassel in spite of what everyone sees. Since they refuse to address the QB situation, why not give the crap sandwich that we have under center even more help.

Major this. Took the words right out of my mouth.

We've had this very same conversation about Guards, RT's, NT's, etc. The list goes on and on.

Richardson isn't just ANY back. He's an elite back. He's a Tomlinson type back.

IMO, the only person who has presented a valid argument in this thread is Htis, and he may be right, but then again, Drafting Tomlinson didn't stop the Chargers from drafting Brees & Rivers either.

He keeps bringing up AP and Vikes, but even they attempted to fix the QB position with signing Favre and drafting a 1st rnd QB.

MJD didn't stop the Jags from taking a QB in the 1st, and Chris Johnson didn't stop the Titans from taking a 1st rnd QB either.

[Bane]

Luck goes 1st,someone trades up to take RG3 @4-5 and Richardson never makes it past Shanahan.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Major this. Took the words right out of my mouth.

We've had this very same conversation about Guards, RT's, NT's, etc. The list goes on and on.

Richardson isn't just ANY back. He's an elite back. He's a Tomlinson type back.
IMO, the only person who has presented a valid argument in this thread is Htis, and he may be right, but then again, Drafting Tomlinson didn't stop the Chargers from drafting Brees & Rivers either.

He keeps bringing up AP and Vikes, but even they attempted to fix the QB position with signing Favre and drafting a 1st rnd QB.

MJD didn't stop the Jags from taking a QB in the 1st, and Chris Johnson didn't stop the Titans from taking a 1st rnd QB either.

Good points ans what's Rivers done since Tomlinson left?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Bane

Luck goes 1st,someone trades up to take RG3 @4-5 and Richardson never makes it past Shanahan.

Also possible. Despite what someone posted earlier in this thread, Roy Helu or whatever the **** his name is, is NOT elite. He was what was left from that scrap heap backfield. Him being on that list is a joke. Might as well have just thrown Jackie Battle up there.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Also possible. Despite what someone posted earlier in this thread, Roy Helu or whatever the **** his name is, is NOT elite. He was what was left from that scrap heap backfield. Him being on that list is a joke. Might as well have just thrown Jackie Battle up there.

When was the last time an ELITE RB lead a team to a SB victory?

[Reaper16]

While Richardson is one of my very favorite college players of all time and a man that I would mark out over seeing in a Chiefs uniform, I don't want the Chiefs to spend the #11 overall pick on a running back. Any running back.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

When was the last time an ELITE RB lead a team to a SB victory?

Marshall Faulk. This is a stupid argument BTW.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

When was the last time an ELITE RB lead a team to a SB victory?

When was the last time an ELITE RT led the team to a SB?

Not a valid argument. We're not talking about QB's. This isn't a QB vs HB debate.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Marshall Faulk. This is a stupid argument BTW.

No it's not. It proves my point. RBs found much later on are good enough to win.

Look at the starting Super Bowl RBs for the last few winners:

James Starks - 6th round
Pierre Thomas - UDFA
Willie Parker - UDFA
Brandon Jacobs - 4th round

[Monty]

Originally Posted by Rausch

You WILL miss more than you hit, but if you don't shoot, you can't hit the target...

Loading the weapon in order to make a shot would be a step in the right direction for this organization.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

When was the last time an ELITE RT led the team to a SB?

Not a valid argument. We're not talking about QB's. This isn't a QB vs HB debate.

It also isn't a RT vs HB debate.