Chiefs Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern - Page 6

Dr. Gigglepants · 01-14-2012, 11:42 PM

Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees.

BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

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This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.

-King- · 01-15-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Also, the real reason Hootie was banned was because he left a Snickers wrapper on the floor of his bedroom for 5 days. Maybe if that little slob showed some attention to detail he'd still be posting here. We aren't going to win any message board championships with that crap.

Always close your chiefs planet tab when you're done posting. I've heard Patriots Planet has been around here video taping.

Brock · 01-15-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Carl Peterson built the Arrowhead experience from the ground up, took a shit, dying franchise and turned it into gold, and you think there were no performance expectations for the employees?

He fired a bunch of old guard people and brought in his own. This isn't rocket science.

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-15-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Also, the real reason Hootie was banned was because he left a Snickers wrapper on the floor of his bedroom for 5 days. Maybe if that little slob showed some attention to detail he'd still be posting here. We aren't going to win any message board championships with that crap.

He used to work for the Chiefs, but thanks to Pioli now all he can get is a pizza delivery gig. Pioli ruins lives.

**Rain Man** · 01-15-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Carl Peterson built the Arrowhead experience from the ground up, took a shit, dying franchise and turned it into gold, and you think there were no performance expectations for the employees?

For the first five years I suspect you're right. During the Donnell Bennett/Carlton Gray years, I suspect workers were going to the movies during the work day. And we know Carl wasn't doing anything at all for the first four or five months of the John Tait negotiations.

**KcMizzou** · 01-15-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

He fired a bunch of old guard people and brought in his own. This isn't rocket science.

Exactly. Cry me a river.

**DeezNutz** · 01-15-2012, 12:34 AM

Bit reductive to claim that he only cycled through some employees.

Don't watch the practice field! Raise your hands to piss!

Psst, Pioli, you fat ****. Your team still sucks.

-King- · 01-15-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

He fired a bunch of old guard people and brought in his own. This isn't rocket science.

Nope. That's not how it works. Watch, Reggie McKenzie will bring absolutely zero personnel from the Packers to run the Raiders. That's how real GMs do it. They work with people they're not familiar or comfortable with, because that's just how awesome they are.

**Rain Man** · 01-15-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Can't wait for the dirt DaFace has on Rain Man if he ever leaves. I heard Rain Man lets his cat do the accounting for the company.

I've bailed DaFace out of jail so often that there's no way he goes state witness on me.

**TimeForWasp** · 01-15-2012, 12:35 AM

auto correct Pioli to Who will pick up the gum wrappers?

**007** · 01-15-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow

Tim God's anointed NFL disciple

Oh, you've gone and done it now.

DaWolf · 01-15-2012, 12:39 AM

You know what, having worked in management at multiple organizations, when you bring in change, you scare certain people, because all of a sudden their gravy train is over. So if you are sitting there paranoid about getting caught doing something wrong, that probably means you're not focusing on doing your job right, which means I'm not going to shed a tear if the Chiefs can you.

I remember a story in the book War Room where Pioli had just taken over and had the scouts together in a meeting room and they were going over players and he kept hearing two scouts in the back snickering. He finally went over and asked them what was so funny, and one of the scouts turns his laptop around and shows him some funny online video he was showing the other guy. You better bet that those guys got canned and the internet probably got locked down after that...

KCrockaholic · 01-15-2012, 12:41 AM

Could you imagine Karen Kornacki asking Pioli during a press conference: "Scott, who will pick up the gum wrappers from now on in the building? You yelled at the staff so close to Christmas. Think about the children."

**KcMizzou** · 01-15-2012, 12:46 AM

This is the Kansas City Star's version of the epic (ok, damnit... how do you spell ek-spoe-zay)

**007** · 01-15-2012, 12:51 AM

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DRU · 01-15-2012, 12:52 AM

I find it funny that a journalist would waste his time on this sort of thing, and I find it even more funny that those few of you who read the article post the negative quotes and comments for the others to read, but leave out the positive or indifferent stuff that just as many people said.

For every negative quote in the article there's another one from somebody saying it's no big deal and it doesn't bother them. Both from people who are still there and those who aren't. One even talked about how the same fears and feelings were evident when Peterson took over years ago.

New management took over. Some people were let go, and some people weren't. It happens everywhere with business, large and small.

The candy wrapper thing is nothing, but you guys are acting like Pioli is the devil because of it. I've seen that example of proving the "attention to detail" point in lots of business management books and I've heard it used at business conferences as well. It's supposed to illustrate how an entire team of people work together to ensure that every small detail is handled within an organization. The point is that if so many people are walking by a piece of trash in their work place and nobody ever picks it up, what other "trash" are they seeing and doing nothing about? It's a simple concept and was most likely used to spark the conversation in the meeting.

This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.

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Dr. Gigglepants Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 Casino cash: $2022400	Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees. BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening. continued... http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.
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01-15-2012, 12:39 AM	#86
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	You know what, having worked in management at multiple organizations, when you bring in change, you scare certain people, because all of a sudden their gravy train is over. So if you are sitting there paranoid about getting caught doing something wrong, that probably means you're not focusing on doing your job right, which means I'm not going to shed a tear if the Chiefs can you. I remember a story in the book War Room where Pioli had just taken over and had the scouts together in a meeting room and they were going over players and he kept hearing two scouts in the back snickering. He finally went over and asked them what was so funny, and one of the scouts turns his laptop around and shows him some funny online video he was showing the other guy. You better bet that those guys got canned and the internet probably got locked down after that...
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01-15-2012, 12:52 AM	#90
DRU To the Game Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $7243516	I find it funny that a journalist would waste his time on this sort of thing, and I find it even more funny that those few of you who read the article post the negative quotes and comments for the others to read, but leave out the positive or indifferent stuff that just as many people said. For every negative quote in the article there's another one from somebody saying it's no big deal and it doesn't bother them. Both from people who are still there and those who aren't. One even talked about how the same fears and feelings were evident when Peterson took over years ago. New management took over. Some people were let go, and some people weren't. It happens everywhere with business, large and small. The candy wrapper thing is nothing, but you guys are acting like Pioli is the devil because of it. I've seen that example of proving the "attention to detail" point in lots of business management books and I've heard it used at business conferences as well. It's supposed to illustrate how an entire team of people work together to ensure that every small detail is handled within an organization. The point is that if so many people are walking by a piece of trash in their work place and nobody ever picks it up, what other "trash" are they seeing and doing nothing about? It's a simple concept and was most likely used to spark the conversation in the meeting. This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.
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