It won't be DeCastro. I'm still betting Kuechly. But here's a dark horse...

[Direckshun]

I am willing to bet something severe on my signature, like a one-year ownership of it, that this team will not take David DeCastro at any point in the 2012 NFL Draft.

Several reasons, which we've all visited:

• The run game is mostly fine. We led the league in rushing two years ago with Thomas ****ing Jones taking half the carries, behind Ryan Lilja. Scott Pioli does not view Lilja as a weak spot, nor really should he for another year or two. DeCastro would offer an upgrade, but it would almost certainly involve cutting Lilja, which Pioli is not going to do.
• At the same time, DeCastro would offer an upgrade over Lilja in pass protection, but only a marginal one. Lilja is a technician in pass protection, and you're only going to see the upgrade against the bigger nose tackles when they're lined up over Lilja. Even then, as milkman said in another thread, Cassel still took over 40 sacks in New England behind their stud, first round guard.
• The Chiefs do have three good value guards under contract, and by good value I mean we have two solid starters and solid depth with Darryl Harris, which is what most teams strive for. All three first-rounders during the Pioli era have been selections at a position the team is perilously thin at (2009, DE; 2010, S; 2011, WR).
• Kind of a lesser argument here, but DeCastro was not a captain at Stanford, and has a reputation for being quiet as a Will Sheilds mouse. If Pioli's going to take a guard, he's going to want it to be a dynamic-changing personality -- not somebody who will just upgrade one spot, but somebody who will elevate several spots through force of will.
• Even more than picking an elite talent at guard, Pioli wants to stockpile 2012 and 2013 draft picks. It's infinitely more likely we'll trade out of the #11 to somebody who really wants DeCastro than it is we'll pick DeCastro ourselves.

It is still my opinion that this team wants Luke Kuechly. The Chiefs in 2013 will only have one ILB under contract in DJ. Siler and Belcher will be free agents, though I believe Pioli would love to keep Belcher, and I bet we can.

Although I really believe, following this front office as closely as I've tried to, that Mark Barron and Michael Brockers are both everything this front office loves in a prospect. The safety position is very thin now, and the DE position will be thin next year, assuming Brandon Bair doesn't blow up.

It doesn't take a lot to see that they are really intrigued by Tannehill.

And they no doubt love Riley Reiff, but of course we have no need for him.

Another dark horse, considering these factors: the Chiefs still lack a deep threat to stretch defenses, and Baldwin's shown flashes, but only flashes, at this point is still a bit unreliable.

Kendall Wright played for four years at Baylor, and was an emotional team captain for that offense (whereas RG3 is more of a cool-as-a-cucumber, poker face leader). Wright's timed speed means precisely jack and shit to Pioli, who's spoken at length about Kendrick Lewis playing faster than he timed -- and Wright plays like a 4.4 speed demon.

The Chiefs have Breaston and Baldwin another four years, and I don't think they'll get Bowe signed in July. They may hold off longer to see if Baldwin can take off, and if he does (and he's shown that he can...), they could always let Bowe walk or trade him off, and a WR corps of Baldwin, Breaston, and Wright would provide a perfect balance of weapons.

Of course, I hope we never do let Bowe go. In a passing league, there is plenty of room for four WR's to get lots of catches, and it would make life very easy for the QBotF after Cassel.

No point to this thread, other than some random thoughts. I think Wright is a sleeper if the Chiefs trade down.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Is there room for 2 Ed Reeds in our 2ndary? I like the thought of that!

Wouldn't that be wonderful?

When the Chiefs used to have two terrific safeties, Cherry and Burress, the whole defense played at a higher level. Great safeties are a wonderful thing and it's often an undervalued position.

[SuperChief]

Originally Posted by BossChief

From what I understand, FAX has always taken these breaks from cp.

It's probably a healthy thing to do from time to time.

Mecca just had a complex that didn't allow him to ever acknowledge he was wrong and once he did and the team actually won games, he left.

It's a shame, he was a good poster, but he just couldn't take having all his knowledge blow up in his face so often.

This is what's going to happen to GoatCheese. The dude is just a constant storm of negativity and wack perception lately.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by SuperChief

This is what's going to happen to GoatCheese. The dude is just a constant storm of negativity and wack perception lately.

He will never leave. His position will change to whatever post whore side brings him the most attention.

Not that I'm complaining or give a shit.

[xztop12]

I don't like the Barron pick because I don't like drafting defensive players in the first round that aren't very rare athletes.(I think Romeo agrees here, Pioli maybe not as much.)

Guys with Barrons size/speed/strength and hit ability are more common than guys with Poe's size that can move like him, guys that can play and have Brockers size/length, and guys that can burst like Melvin Ingram at 270-280... As a late first or early second the pick becomes more tolerable

[Urc Burry]

Mayock just said Kuechly is the best coverage ILN he's seen come out of college.

[xztop12]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Mayock just said Kuechly is the best coverage ILN he's seen come out of college.

thats kinda cool

[Austin Ed]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

From the guy who wants Tannehill (1 1/2 years as a starter after being converted to wide receiver in a total gimmick spread system) or Mark Barron (torn pec repair, double hernia repair, arrest who was no better than a third rounder to start the 2011 season).

That's your first round wish list?

Talk about dumbassery.

Agreed. Dumb dumbassery

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by xztop12

I don't like the Barron pick because I don't like drafting defensive players in the first round that aren't very rare athletes.(I think Romeo agrees here, Pioli maybe not as much.)

Guys with Barrons size/speed/strength and hit ability are more common than guys with Poe's size that can move like him, guys that can play and have Brockers size/length, and guys that can burst like Melvin Ingram at 270-280... As a late first or early second the pick becomes more tolerable

Chapman is the NT you want in our D. Poe got a lot a tackles at Memphis, Chapman anchored the best defense in the land.

Barron and Chapman completes our top 5 D.

[xztop12]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Chapman is the NT you want in our D. Poe got a lot a tackles at Memphis, Chapman anchored the best defense in the land.

Barron and Chapman completes our top 5 D.

theres really no way of knowing that. its possible but it could be other variables besides that, thats led to bamas success. do you ahve evidence for those 2 being the driving force to their D

[Direckshun]

There are players that made shit happen on that Bama defense, and others that coasted from it.

It's not hard to figure out.

Chapman, Barron, and Hightower made shit happen.

Menzie and Upshaw clearly benefited from that.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

There are players that made shit happen on that Bama defense, and others that coasted from it.

It's not hard to figure out.

Chapman, Barron, and Hightower made shit happen.

Menzie and Upshaw clearly benefited from that.

Like Peppers vs Sims

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BossChief

@ sac still calling for ot

Actually, I agree with sac on this one.

If Albert or Winston are lost to injury, he's right, we have no one behind them to take over.

If sac's argument is that Reiff makes more sense than DeCastro or Kuechly, and that's how I understand it, then I, as I said, I agree with him on that.

Now I understand, also, that sac has had a hard on for replacing Albert for a long time, but if you take the argument he's making at face value without allowing his past dumbassery coloring your opinion, he does make a valid point.

I'd much rather look for tackle depth later, but were the Chiefs to draft Reif or Martin, that would not piss me off like taking Kuechly or DeCastro would.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by milkman

Actually, I agree with sac on this one.

If Albert or Winston are lost to injury, he's right, we have no one behind them to take over.

If sac's argument is that Reiff makes more sense than DeCastro or Kuechly, and that's how I understand it, then I, as I said, I agree with him on that.

Now I understand, also, that sac has had a hard on for replacing Albert for a long time, but if you take the argument he's making at face value without allowing his past dumbassery coloring your opinion, he does make a valid point.

I'd much rather look for tackle depth later, but were the Chiefs to draft Reif or Martin, that would not piss me off like taking Kuechly or DeCastro would.

DeCastro would be talented enough to start over Asamoah and Lilja. Reiff would be a backup. You'd rather use the #11 pick on a backup rather than a starter, even one at guard? That's messed up.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by milkman

Actually, I agree with sac on this one.

If Albert or Winston are lost to injury, he's right, we have no one behind them to take over.

If sac's argument is that Reiff makes more sense than DeCastro or Kuechly, and that's how I understand it, then I, as I said, I agree with him on that.

Now I understand, also, that sac has had a hard on for replacing Albert for a long time, but if you take the argument he's making at face value without allowing his past dumbassery coloring your opinion, he does make a valid point.

I'd much rather look for tackle depth later, but were the Chiefs to draft Reif or Martin, that would not piss me off like taking Kuechly or DeCastro would.

DeCastro (Like Matthews) can play any position on the o-line except Left Tackle.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

DeCastro would be talented enough to start over Asamoah and Lilja. Reiff would be a backup. You'd rather use the #11 pick on a backup rather than a starter, even one at guard? That's messed up.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

DeCastro (Like Matthews) can play any position on the o-line except Left Tackle.

And Reiff could play any position on the O-Line except center.

If you draft him, you get a new starter at guard that all the dumbasses are clamoring for, but a guy that can step outside to LT if the need arises.

And yes, a good backup LT is more valuable than a starter at guard.