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Old 07-08-2012, 07:31 PM  
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Would you pay Bowe $120-130M for 8 years?
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Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

RT @ChiefsOrioles12 Do the Chiefs get Bowe signed long term before the 16th? ... Doubt it. Believed to be seeking big-time money.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...act-with-lions
Johnson is scheduled to earn close to $130 million over the next eight seasons, including $113.5 million over the final seven years of the deal, league sources told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

The contract includes $4.5 million in an existing roster bonus that's due on the final year of his rookie deal.


The deal also includes $53 million in guaranteed money, with Johnson's $1.25 million base salary in 2012 guaranteed, and $36 million due in signing and option bonuses. According to La Canfora, $11.5 million in future salary is guaranteed for injury only.

The contract makes Johnson -- who scorched the NFL with 96 catches for 1,681 yards and 16 touchdowns in 2011 -- the highest-paid wide receiver in league history, surpassing the eight-year, $120 million deal that Larry Fitzgerald signed with the Arizona Cardinals before last season.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #331
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Whose prime has been wasted? DJ who was wallowing and is just now hitting his prime?
Are you serious?

Charles, Hali, DJ, Bowe, Albert, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr....four years of their careers....gone...nothing to show for it when Pioli dumped in the garbage with his shithead boy wonder Matt.

You sitting there happy with that after Carl did the same thing to two generations of Chiefs?
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:18 PM   #332
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Are you serious?

Charles, Hali, DJ, Bowe, Albert, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr....four years of their careers....gone...nothing to show for it when Pioli dumped in the garbage with his shithead boy wonder Matt.

You sitting there happy with that after Carl did the same thing to two generations of Chiefs?
Sadly, at least another 2-3 years of their careers will be wasted.

Even if they finally wise up and draft a R1 QB next year, you can't expect the kid to go full-Roethlisberger and go to the AFC Championship game/Super Bowl his first year or two.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:20 PM   #333
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Are you serious?

Charles, Hali, DJ, Bowe, Albert, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr....four years of their careers....gone...nothing to show for it when Pioli dumped in the garbage with his shithead boy wonder Matt.

You sitting there happy with that after Carl did the same thing to two generations of Chiefs?

First off I'm no Cassel fan by any means. I think he was brought in simply for the fact that they knew a housecleaning was basically going down and they knew he would be a good soldier and follow orders while they built from the ground up.


Build up the roster to the point where you can just insert a qb and it can carry him until he gets his feet wet and can lead.

I don't think you could have taken the franchise from where it was in 2008 to where we want it to be in a season, I think it takes time and for you to make a move to get your qb.

IMO, thats the biggest mistake so far. Not McCluster, or Haley, or whatever else. It's not going and getting your guy. Maybe it's Stanzi, or maybe they think it's Cassel, which is absurd.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:21 PM   #334
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Sadly, at least another 2-3 years of their careers will be wasted.

Even if they finally wise up and draft a R1 QB next year, you can't expect the kid to go full-Roethlisberger and go to the AFC Championship game/Super Bowl his first year or two.
Which is why I'm not a fan of building the roster before you get your qb. I realize though that you have to keep building your roster and guys are going to get old and retire/move on.



However, if you have your qb it makes it alot easier.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:22 PM   #335
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First off I'm no Cassel fan by any means. I think he was brought in simply for the fact that they knew a housecleaning was basically going down and they knew he would be a good soldier and follow orders while they built from the ground up.


Build up the roster to the point where you can just insert a qb and it can carry him until he gets his feet wet and can lead.

I don't think you could have taken the franchise from where it was in 2008 to where we want it to be in a season, I think it takes time and for you to make a move to get your qb.

IMO, thats the biggest mistake so far. Not McCluster, or Haley, or whatever else. It's not going and getting your guy. Maybe it's Stanzi, or maybe they think it's Cassel, which is absurd.
No, you get that young QB immediately, and let him sit behind Cassel for a few years.

Then he's ready to go when Cassel shits the bed - like now.

Instead, we have three Top-11 picks on our D-line.
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r maybe they think it's Cassel, which is absurd.


Their actions this offseason say one thing:

WE LOVE MATT CASSEL!
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:25 PM   #337
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No, you get that young QB immediately, and let him sit behind Cassel for a few years.

Then he's ready to go when Cassel shits the bed - like now.

Instead, we have three Top-11 picks on our D-line.
Technically they did do that with Stanzi?


But I get what you are saying. That's more what I meant was the mistake.


Bringing in Cassel, while now we he sucks, wasn't the big problem. He did an alright job moving the ship forward while things were being figured out.


Seeing that he isn't the franchise guy and having a young guy ready to role is the problem. We haven't exactly had a prime spot to draft a young qb early either. The years we suck bad enough to be that high, none there or they are gone.


I don't put the Dorsey pick on this regime, but the other two for sure better stepup the play.
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Technically they did do that with Stanzi?
Betting on a 7th round pick and then on a 5th round pick to take you to the Super Bowl.

Those are some low odds.
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Technically they did do that with Stanzi?


But I get what you are saying. That's more what I meant was the mistake.


Bringing in Cassel, while now we he sucks, wasn't the big problem. He did an alright job moving the ship forward while things were being figured out.


Seeing that he isn't the franchise guy and having a young guy ready to role is the problem. We haven't exactly had a prime spot to draft a young qb early either. The years we suck bad enough to be that high, none there or they are gone.


I don't put the Dorsey pick on this regime, but the other two for sure better stepup the play.
Enough with this Stanzi bullshit.

And enough with the excuses. We've had three Top-11 picks in the 4 drafts under Pioli. We've had the currency, and apparently have been unwilling to use it. People can ridicule Washington all they want, but they have a legit franchise-type guy. They are at least trying.

Go out and get a real QB.
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Betting on a 7th round pick and then on a 5th round pick to take you to the Super Bowl.

Those are some low odds.
Not if you know talent like Scott Pioli.
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Betting on a 7th round pick and then on a 5th round pick to take you to the Super Bowl.

Those are some low odds.
It's a process.
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Not if you know talent like Scott Pioli.


They fell ass-backwards into the only decent QB they've (BB/Pioli) ever drafted.

Hell, Pioli didn't even want to draft Brady. He wanted Tim Rattay.
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Enough with this Stanzi bullshit.

And enough with the excuses. We've had three Top-11 picks in the 4 drafts under Pioli. We've had the currency, and apparently have been unwilling to use it. People can ridicule Washington all they want, but they have a legit franchise-type guy. They are at least trying.

Go out and get a real QB.
Again, I'm fine with that. Shit I was advocating trading 4 first rounders for Luck.


With those 3 picks, where is your qb? You wanna bitch about not getting one, there hasn't been one there to get.
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They fell ass-backwards into the only decent QB they've (BB/Pioli) ever drafted.

Hell, Pioli didn't even want to draft Brady. He wanted Tim Rattay.
Sarcastically speaking.
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Again, I'm fine with that. Shit I was advocating trading 4 first rounders for Luck.


With those 3 picks, where is your qb? You wanna bitch about not getting one, there hasn't been one there to get.
Then where did these other teams all get their QB's?

You have to be willing to move up, or take a risk with a guy.

We've done neither.
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