Chiefs Would you pay Bowe $120-130M for 8 years? - Page 24

**jAZ** · 07-08-2012, 07:31 PM

According to...

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

RT @ChiefsOrioles12 Do the Chiefs get Bowe signed long term before the 16th? ... Doubt it. Believed to be seeking big-time money.

Which means...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...act-with-lions

Johnson is scheduled to earn close to $130 million over the next eight seasons, including $113.5 million over the final seven years of the deal, league sources told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

The contract includes $4.5 million in an existing roster bonus that's due on the final year of his rookie deal.

The deal also includes $53 million in guaranteed money, with Johnson's $1.25 million base salary in 2012 guaranteed, and $36 million due in signing and option bonuses. According to La Canfora, $11.5 million in future salary is guaranteed for injury only.

The contract makes Johnson -- who scorched the NFL with 96 catches for 1,681 yards and 16 touchdowns in 2011 -- the highest-paid wide receiver in league history, surpassing the eight-year, $120 million deal that Larry Fitzgerald signed with the Arizona Cardinals before last season.

O.city · 07-13-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Then where did these other teams all get their QB's?

You have to be willing to move up, or take a risk with a guy.

We've done neither.

I get moving up, but what guy has been there to take a risk with?

Andy Dalton? Jimmy Clausen?

IMO, hindsight 50 50, I would have made a huge effort to go get Cam. I think if I were building a team right now, he's my starting piece. I think he has a chance to be a top 3 qb in the league in the next 3 years.

I've been advocating move up more than anyone. Say you give up those picks and move up for the right guy, he's worth more than you would get out of thos picks anyway.

Just Passin' By · 07-13-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Enough with this Stanzi bullshit.

And enough with the excuses. We've had three Top-11 picks in the 4 drafts under Pioli. We've had the currency, and apparently have been unwilling to use it. People can ridicule Washington all they want, but they have a legit franchise-type guy. They are at least trying.

Go out and get a real QB.

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Year No. Round Pick Player Name Team College

2012 1 1 1 1 Andrew Luck Colts Stanford
2 1 2 2 Robert Griffin III Redskins Baylor
3 1 8 8 Ryan Tannehill Dolphins Texas A&M
4 1 22 22 Brandon Weeden Browns Oklahoma State
5 2 25 57 Brock Osweiler Broncos Arizona State
6 3 12 75 Russell Wilson Seahawks Wisconsin
7 3 25 88 Nick Foles Eagles Arizona
8 4 7 102 Kirk Cousins Redskins Michigan State
9 6 15 185 Ryan Lindley Cardinals San Diego State
10 7 36 243 B.J. Coleman Packers Tennessee-Chattanooga
11 7 46 253 Chandler Harnish Colts Northern Illinois

2011s 1 3 0 0 Terrelle Prior Raiders Ohio State

2011 1 1 1 1 Cam Newton Panthers Auburn
2 1 8 8 Jake Locker Titans Washington
3 1 10 10 Blaine Gabbert Jaguars Missouri
4 1 12 12 Christian Ponder Vikings Florida State
5 2 3 35 Andy Dalton Bengals Texas Christian
6 2 4 36 Colin Kaepernick 49ers Nevada
7 3 10 74 Ryan Mallett Patriots Arkansas
8 5 4 135 Ricky Stanzi Chiefs Iowa
9 5 21 152 T.J. Yates Texans North Carolina
10 5 29 160 Nathan Enderle Bears Idaho
11 6 15 180 Tyrod Taylor Ravens Virginia Tech
12 7 5 208 Greg McElroy Jets Alabama

2010 1 1 1 1 Sam Bradford Rams Oklahoma
2 1 25 25 Tim Tebow Broncos Florida
3 2 16 48 Jimmy Clausen Panthers Notre Dame
4 3 21 85 Colt McCoy Browns Texas
5 4 24 122 Mike Kafka Eagles Northwestern
6 5 24 155 John Skelton Cardinals Fordham
7 5 37 168 Jonathan Crompton Chargers Tennessee
8 6 7 176 Rusty Smith Titans Florida Atlantic
9 6 12 181 Dan LeFevour Bears Central Michigan
10 6 30 199 Joe Webb Vikings Alabama-Birmingham
11 6 35 204 Tony Pike Panthers Cincinnati
12 7 2 209 Levi Brown Bills Troy
13 7 32 239 Sean Canfield Saints Oregon State
14 7 43 250 Zac Robinson Patriots Oklahoma State

2009 1 1 1 1 Matthew Stafford Lions Georgia
2 1 5 5 Mark Sanchez Jets USC
3 1 17 17 Josh Freeman Buccaneers Kansas State
4 2 12 44 Pat White Dolphins West Virginia
5 4 1 101 Stephen McGee Cowboys Texas A&M
6 5 15 151 Rhett Bomar Giants Sam Houston State
7 5 35 171 Nate Davis 49ers Ball State
8 6 1 174 Tom Brandstater Broncos Fresno State
9 6 5 178 Mike Teel Seahawks Rutgers
10 6 23 196 Keith Null Rams West Texas A&M
11 6 28 201 Curtis Painter Colts Purdue
12 7 23 232 Julian Edelman Patriots Kent State

They didn't have a shot at any of the QBs that went #1 overall, and they didn't have the firepower to outbid Washington for RGIII, so which franchise QBs did they have a legitimate chance to get?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I get moving up, but what guy has been there to take a risk with?

Andy Dalton? Jimmy Clausen?

IMO, hindsight 50 50, I would have made a huge effort to go get Cam. I think if I were building a team right now, he's my starting piece. I think he has a chance to be a top 3 qb in the league in the next 3 years.

I've been advocating move up more than anyone. Say you give up those picks and move up for the right guy, he's worth more than you would get out of thos picks anyway.

Stafford was un-gettable, but we could have jumped ATL for Ryan. Hell, for the right offer, we could have traded with ATL - they wanted Dorsey.

Freeman would have been seen as a risk at the time, but worth it if the plan is to sit him for 2 years.

You know where I stand on Sanchez.

Hell, I really wanted no part of Tannehill as a prospect, but I would have respected the fact that they recognized the importance of the position and tried to get a guy.

You have no shot at any of those guys of you're unwilling to try. And let's face it - they're unwilling to try because they think they have their guy and are the smartest guys in the league.

Hammock Parties · 07-13-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

They didn't have a shot at any of the QBs that went #1 overall, and they didn't have the firepower to outbid Washington for RGIII, so which franchise QBs did they have a legitimate chance to get?

Had we drafted Josh Freeman, who is more talented than Cassel and younger, we would at least be sitting here with the future of the regime in the balance, wondering if the quarterback would fulfill his potential.

Instead we're sitting here hoping for Cassel to get benched so a 5th round pick can save the day.

And IMO, Freeman would have kicked ass here with the talent we have over Tampa Bay.

Just Passin' By · 07-13-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Had we drafted Josh Freeman, who is more talented than Cassel and younger, we would at least be sitting here with the future of the regime in the balance, wondering if the quarterback would fulfill his potential.

Instead we're sitting here hoping for Cassel to get benched so a 5th round pick can save the day.

Even for you, this is weak sauce.

Try again.

O.city · 07-13-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Stafford was un-gettable, but we could have jumped ATL for Ryan. Hell, for the right offer, we could have traded with ATL - they wanted Dorsey.

Freeman would have been seen as a risk at the time, but worth it if the plan is to sit him for 2 years.

You know where I stand on Sanchez.

Hell, I really wanted no part of Tannehill as a prospect, but I would have respected the fact that they recognized the importance of the position and tried to get a guy.

You have no shot at any of those guys of you're unwilling to try. And let's face it - they're unwilling to try because they think they have their guy and are the smartest guys in the league.

Would have loved to have Ryan, as I think he gets over the hump soon, although they are getting a little old skill wise in ATL.

I'm not sold on Freeman at all.

But I agree with what you are saying, but I can see where they are coming from in that the "guy" they see as being the "guy" hasn't been available when they pick.

Thats where they lose me. I don't really agree with their view of the "guy".

Hammock Parties · 07-13-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Even for you, this is weak sauce.

Try again.

I'll bump this post in 6 months when Freeman is firing lasers to Vincent Jackson.

And probably embarrassing a visiting Matt Cassel in Week 6.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Had we drafted Josh Freeman, who is more talented than Cassel and younger, we would at least be sitting here with the future of the regime in the balance, wondering if the quarterback would fulfill his potential.

Instead we're sitting here hoping for Cassel to get benched so a 5th round pick can save the day.

And IMO, Freeman would have kicked ass here with the talent we have over Tampa Bay.

But hey, on the bright side, we have the highest paid one-dimensional 5-technique in the league.

O.city · 07-13-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Had we drafted Josh Freeman, who is more talented than Cassel and younger, we would at least be sitting here with the future of the regime in the balance, wondering if the quarterback would fulfill his potential.

Instead we're sitting here hoping for Cassel to get benched so a 5th round pick can save the day.

And IMO, Freeman would have kicked ass here with the talent we have over Tampa Bay.

I'm not big on Freeman, but I think he is better than our guy.

Maybe it's the Iowa guys on here or just hope, but I like Stanzi.

O.city · 07-13-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

I'll bump this post in 6 months when Freeman is firing lasers to Vincent Jackson.

And probably embarrassing a visiting Matt Cassel in Week 6.

Nah, you'll be on a year sabbatical by then.

Hammock Parties · 07-13-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Nah, you'll be on a year sabbatical by then.

OK, 4 months, whatever.

I fully expect the Bucs to have a great year. I bet they beat us by 14+.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Even for you, this is weak sauce.

Try again.

Yeah, it would really suck to have a 24 year old with prototypical size, arm strength and untapped talent.

Ace Gunner · 07-13-2012, 07:53 PM

With the spread shotgun offense used in college the past decade, you'd think the NFL would have figured out there would be a shortage of good QBing coming out and elect not to make the NFL into a QB driven league.

But alas, Goodell is the square peg abusing the round hole.

Just Passin' By · 07-13-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, it would really suck to have a 24 year old with prototypical size, arm strength and untapped talent.

Yeah, maybe someone like JaMarcus Russell is available. If not, maybe the greatness that is Vince Young can be gotten.

Freeman's thrown more INTs than TDs in 2 of his 3 seasons. In Cassel's four seasons as a starter, he's never thrown more INTs than TDs. But let's pretend that Freeman has shown that he is the answer. It's easier than taking a real look at what's been going on in KC.

Hammock Parties · 07-13-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Yeah, maybe someone like JaMarcus Russell is available. If not, maybe the greatness that is Vince Young can be gotten.

Or, we could have a guy who once threw 25 TD and 6 INT in a season.

That would be cool.

That ship has sailed. Thanks Scott.

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