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Old 08-15-2012, 04:44 PM  
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Holthus takes a shot at Haley...
On 810 not long ago he was talking about the chemistry on this team and how he hasn't seen it this way really since he has been calling the games but to the juice...

Said the big reason for the chemistry is there is not a bunch of nit-picking, micro-managing and "useless yelling". Said Cassel doesn't have to worry anymore about being chewed out after changing the play and completing a downfield pass when the play called did not call for such. Went on to say that accountability is being maintained and used the Monday walk-through as an example. Just said there isn't a bunch ot nit-picking and yelling. Romeo let's the coaches coach, etc.

He then elabortated more about how Daboll doesn't give a shit if Cassel changes a play at the line if he thinks the play called won't succeed against the defensive alignment.

I took that as a clear shot at Haley and in retrospect it certainly seems to fit what we saw out of him for 3 years.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:04 PM   #16
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:04 PM   #17
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Cassel does not read defenses well during the play. Given that fact it would be reasonable to let him adjust before the play to put himself in a better pre snap position to succeed. However, there were two problems with that last season: one he wasn't allowed to alter the play, and secondly even if he was the play was never in on time to even consider doing that.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #18
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #19
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pretty sure Big Ben was changing plays at the line and making reads in the Steelers first preseason game. So unless Haley is bipolar and completely different as a OC than he is a HC....
Tomlinson would be the one telling Haley to **** off if he even tried something like that. Pure and simple, Haley did not like Cassel. He did not trust Cassel. He did not want Cassel. Him and his Daddy would talk about how bad Cassel is at family dinner.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #20
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I hate to say it because I was a big Haley supporter, but it's possible his attitude was counterproductive across the board.

It was clear to see that the team responded the moment he was fired...and in a positive way. That turnaround has seemingly continued into this year.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #21
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Bill Parcells also won a SB and went to another. Are you equating Haley to Parcells?
When you get a chance, watch the Bill Parcells episode of sound effects.

You will swear it's Todd Haley with grey hair.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #22
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Cassel does not read defenses well during the play. Given that fact it would be reasonable to let him adjust before the play to put himself in a better pre snap position to succeed. However, there were two problems with that last season: one he wasn't allowed to alter the play, and secondly even if he was the play was never in on time to even consider doing that.
That wouldn't have anything to do with the trio (Haley\Nuir\Zorn) calling in the plays, would it?
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:06 PM   #23
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Bill Parcells also won a SB and went to another. Are you equating Haley to Parcells?
Parcells is the reason Haley was a HC.

Pioli picked Haley.

They don't get a free pass on blaming him, because they created him.
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When you get a chance, watch the Bill Parcells episode of sound effects.

You will swear it's Todd Haley with grey hair.
Look, I am not saying Parcells didn't yell and cuss. Difference was he could do it and hold the respect of the team. Haley couldn't. There is probably a reason for that.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:07 PM   #25
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Parcells is the reason Haley was a HC.

Pioli picked Haley.

They don't get a free pass on blaming him, because they created him.
Haley isn't a HC, in case you missed it. And I don't give Pioli a pass on Haley. I supported Haley at first like many did.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:07 PM   #26
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Yes, the Chiefs are taking all kinds of underhanded shots at Haley and Bowe these days.

Especially Haley.

Any failure in the past three years? His fault.

Now that he's gone, everything will be awesome. He was evil and the fruits of the devil.

Dude sucked but to blame him for everything makes me sick.
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That was Weis, not Haley. We have been over this several times.
No, it was not Weis.

It was Cassel at the line of ****ing scrimmage changing things. And then Haley praising him for it, literally saying "he's becoming a quarterback."
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I supported Haley at first like many did.
So did Scott Pioli.
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No, it was not Weis.

It was Cassel at the line of ****ing scrimmage changing things. And then Haley praising him for it, literally saying "he's becoming a quarterback."
Weis was the OC. Meaning Weis gave Cassel the clearence to change the calls. WTF was Haley going to say publicly after his QB put on a great performance?
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Yes, the Chiefs are taking all kinds of underhanded shots at Haley and Bowe these days.

Especially Haley.

Any failure in the past three years? His fault.

Now that he's gone, everything will be awesome. He was evil and the fruits of the devil.

Dude sucked but to blame him for everything makes me sick.
Damn... Cabin Boy reference.
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