Football Vick has a new dog in his life...Should he be allowed or no? - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 10-12-2012, 07:08 AM

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The Milk Bones don't lie.

Five years after agents raided his dog fighting compound in southern Virginia and rescued Handsome Dan, Sweet Jasmine and 49 other badly damaged pit bulls, Michael Vick owns a dog again.

My colleague, Eagles beat writer Jeff McClane reported today that Vick released a statement saying he and his family had "obtained" a pet.

The news comes just days after Vick watchers spotted a box of Milk Bones sitting on the kitchen table in a picture Tweeted by Vick.

We don't know where the dog came from, its age, its breed or even its name.

Under terms of his probation, Vick could not own a dog until May. Last fall his fiancee had purchased a parrot for their children and Vick spoke publicly on sevearl occasions of his desire to have a dog again for his children's sake.

“I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family’s decision to care for a pet,” Vick said in a statement released by his publicist. “As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals.

Many people won't forget Vick's past "relationship with animals."

Vick was sentenced to 18 months in prison for running an interstate dog fighting ring, not for animal abuse. But by his own admission, we know Vick beat his dogs with shovels, electrocuted them and drowned them.

Many of his canine victims who were rescued went on to find loving homes. But some will spend their lives in shelters - thank you Best Friends Animal Society - because they are too psychologically damaged to be companion pets. [For a heart-stirring read on the fate of the surviving dogs read Jim Gorant's "The Lost Dogs."]

News of Vick's signing by the Eagles in 2009 prompted outrage from Philadelphia's animal lovers and led to team's decision to invest hundreds of thousands in animal welfare causes across the region.

At the same time Vick was embarking on his new, controversial relationship with the Humane Society of the United States, where he still serves as an advocate for animal welfare issues and educator appealing to inner city children to treat animals kindly.

HSUS president Wayne Pacelle in an email declined to comment on the latest news.

Vick in his statement sought to assuage concerns by telling the public that he hopes to instill humane values in his children.

“I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God’s creatures with kindness and respect," he said. "Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family.

Vick called the inclusion of a dog in his family's life as "an opportunity to break the cycle."

And he promised he would "continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change.”

Full Statement:

"I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family's decision to care for a pet. As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God's creatures with kindness and respect. Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family. This is an opportunity to break the cycle. To that end, I will continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change."

mikey23545 · 10-12-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

But by his own admission, we know Vick beat his dogs with shovels, electrocuted them and drowned them.

If his punishment had been an "eye for an eye" type thing I wouldn't mind seeing his children have a dog now.

KC_Lee · 10-12-2012, 08:12 AM

As someone who has worked in the animal rescue community (fostered and adopted out dogs and cats, rehabbed dogs that were the victims of hoarders, etc.) Vick is as about as low as a person can go in my book. Too me he's five steps below the slime that a slug leaves behind him.

However, if he is truly repentant, and really does want to end the cycle of dog fighting then I wish him well.

But I still do hope that at some point in time he gets broken in half on the football field.

**gblowfish** · 10-12-2012, 10:24 AM

Maybe he just likes the taste of Milk Bone biscuits?

**J Diddy** · 10-12-2012, 10:34 AM

The man served his time, he's paid his debt. Why should I give a poo?

Bump · 10-12-2012, 10:36 AM

There should be no problem with Mike Vick owning a dog unless he is carrying it near the goal line.

saphojunkie · 10-12-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

frankly i just don't care.

This post edited by MGM.

Sofa King · 10-12-2012, 10:40 AM

Yup. Part of the healing process for him and his children.

COchief · 10-12-2012, 11:23 AM

Anyone know what the breed is? That would make a big difference in my book, if its a pit/rott/other big sometimes aggressive breed that will piss me off. If he got a teacup poodle for his kids I wouldn't care.

listopencil · 10-12-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

He did the crime. He did the time.

I understand that. However, in my eyes, he will always be a gigantic piece of shit and a failure as a human being for what he did. Forgiveness is an option not an obligation.

Bump · 10-12-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

I understand that. However, in my eyes, he will always be a gigantic piece of shit and a failure as a human being for what he did. Forgiveness is an option not an obligation.

he seems to have embraced his second chance and has learned a tough lesson. Everybody makes mistakes, what matters is if they can learn from them. Vick just sucks ass now at football.

lcarus · 10-12-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief

Anyone know what the breed is? That would make a big difference in my book, if its a pit/rott/other big sometimes aggressive breed that will piss me off. If he got a teacup poodle for his kids I wouldn't care.

I really don't care either way. The dogfighting is in the past. This is just a family pet. The dog will live a good life probably

**Iowanian** · 10-12-2012, 11:31 AM

It's a free country.

Child abusers get their kids back.............

This is a dog. An animal, not a human being.

Deberg_1990 · 10-12-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief

Anyone know what the breed is? That would make a big difference in my book, if its a pit/rott/other big sometimes aggressive breed that will piss me off. If he got a teacup poodle for his kids I wouldn't care.

I dont think hes said yet. He tweeted out a pic last week and people noticed there was a box of dog biscuits in the background. When intially confronted about it, he declined to comment. The story says that under terms on his probation, he wasnt even allowed to own another dog until this May. It should have been for life.

listopencil · 10-12-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump

he seems to have embraced his second chance and has learned a tough lesson. Everybody makes mistakes, what matters is if they can learn from them. Vick just sucks ass now at football.

Sure. I get that he appears to be trying to do the right thing. I'm not in his personal life and I'm sure I never will be. But I'll never change my opinion of him, no matter what he does, until the day he dies.

listopencil · 10-12-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

It's a free country.

Child abusers get their kids back.............

This is a dog. An animal, not a human being.

I don't think anyone can rationalize barring him or his family from owning a pet dog. I would say that there is a good chance that something like that would help him develop as a human and make sure his kids don't do what he did. He's still a piece of shit.

10-12-2012, 07:08 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3614454	Vick has a new dog in his life...Should he be allowed or no? http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...-advocacy.html The Milk Bones don't lie. Five years after agents raided his dog fighting compound in southern Virginia and rescued Handsome Dan, Sweet Jasmine and 49 other badly damaged pit bulls, Michael Vick owns a dog again. My colleague, Eagles beat writer Jeff McClane reported today that Vick released a statement saying he and his family had "obtained" a pet. The news comes just days after Vick watchers spotted a box of Milk Bones sitting on the kitchen table in a picture Tweeted by Vick. We don't know where the dog came from, its age, its breed or even its name. Under terms of his probation, Vick could not own a dog until May. Last fall his fiancee had purchased a parrot for their children and Vick spoke publicly on sevearl occasions of his desire to have a dog again for his children's sake. “I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family’s decision to care for a pet,” Vick said in a statement released by his publicist. “As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. Many people won't forget Vick's past "relationship with animals." Vick was sentenced to 18 months in prison for running an interstate dog fighting ring, not for animal abuse. But by his own admission, we know Vick beat his dogs with shovels, electrocuted them and drowned them. Many of his canine victims who were rescued went on to find loving homes. But some will spend their lives in shelters - thank you Best Friends Animal Society - because they are too psychologically damaged to be companion pets. [For a heart-stirring read on the fate of the surviving dogs read Jim Gorant's "The Lost Dogs."] News of Vick's signing by the Eagles in 2009 prompted outrage from Philadelphia's animal lovers and led to team's decision to invest hundreds of thousands in animal welfare causes across the region. At the same time Vick was embarking on his new, controversial relationship with the Humane Society of the United States, where he still serves as an advocate for animal welfare issues and educator appealing to inner city children to treat animals kindly. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle in an email declined to comment on the latest news. Vick in his statement sought to assuage concerns by telling the public that he hopes to instill humane values in his children. “I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God’s creatures with kindness and respect," he said. "Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family. Vick called the inclusion of a dog in his family's life as "an opportunity to break the cycle." And he promised he would "continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change.” Full Statement: "I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family's decision to care for a pet. As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God's creatures with kindness and respect. Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family. This is an opportunity to break the cycle. To that end, I will continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change."
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KC_Lee You're CARICATURES, ALL of you Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $1570960	As someone who has worked in the animal rescue community (fostered and adopted out dogs and cats, rehabbed dogs that were the victims of hoarders, etc.) Vick is as about as low as a person can go in my book. Too me he's five steps below the slime that a slug leaves behind him. However, if he is truly repentant, and really does want to end the cycle of dog fighting then I wish him well. But I still do hope that at some point in time he gets broken in half on the football field.
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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	Maybe he just likes the taste of Milk Bone biscuits?
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Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $1835105	There should be no problem with Mike Vick owning a dog unless he is carrying it near the goal line. __________________
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Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $682096 VARSITY	Yup. Part of the healing process for him and his children.
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