Football Vick has a new dog in his life...Should he be allowed or no? - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 10-12-2012, 07:08 AM

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The Milk Bones don't lie.

Five years after agents raided his dog fighting compound in southern Virginia and rescued Handsome Dan, Sweet Jasmine and 49 other badly damaged pit bulls, Michael Vick owns a dog again.

My colleague, Eagles beat writer Jeff McClane reported today that Vick released a statement saying he and his family had "obtained" a pet.

The news comes just days after Vick watchers spotted a box of Milk Bones sitting on the kitchen table in a picture Tweeted by Vick.

We don't know where the dog came from, its age, its breed or even its name.

Under terms of his probation, Vick could not own a dog until May. Last fall his fiancee had purchased a parrot for their children and Vick spoke publicly on sevearl occasions of his desire to have a dog again for his children's sake.

“I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family’s decision to care for a pet,” Vick said in a statement released by his publicist. “As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals.

Many people won't forget Vick's past "relationship with animals."

Vick was sentenced to 18 months in prison for running an interstate dog fighting ring, not for animal abuse. But by his own admission, we know Vick beat his dogs with shovels, electrocuted them and drowned them.

Many of his canine victims who were rescued went on to find loving homes. But some will spend their lives in shelters - thank you Best Friends Animal Society - because they are too psychologically damaged to be companion pets. [For a heart-stirring read on the fate of the surviving dogs read Jim Gorant's "The Lost Dogs."]

News of Vick's signing by the Eagles in 2009 prompted outrage from Philadelphia's animal lovers and led to team's decision to invest hundreds of thousands in animal welfare causes across the region.

At the same time Vick was embarking on his new, controversial relationship with the Humane Society of the United States, where he still serves as an advocate for animal welfare issues and educator appealing to inner city children to treat animals kindly.

HSUS president Wayne Pacelle in an email declined to comment on the latest news.

Vick in his statement sought to assuage concerns by telling the public that he hopes to instill humane values in his children.

“I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God’s creatures with kindness and respect," he said. "Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family.

Vick called the inclusion of a dog in his family's life as "an opportunity to break the cycle."

And he promised he would "continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change.”

Full Statement:

"I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family's decision to care for a pet. As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God's creatures with kindness and respect. Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family. This is an opportunity to break the cycle. To that end, I will continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change."

Saccopoo · 10-12-2012, 11:37 AM

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“I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God’s creatures with kindness and respect,"

Hypocritical piece of shit.

**** this guy and **** that he's "done the time." The dildo murdered a bunch of animals in cold blood and now he's found God and kindness and respect for the same animals he previously tortured? Lying, cocksucking, sociopathic pile of monkey shit.

It's times like this when I hope that the hypothetical Chinese type of Hell is the real deal.

Ebolapox · 10-12-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

It's a free country.

Child abusers get their kids back.............

This is a dog. An animal, not a human being.

human beings technically ARE animals, dude. kingdom animalia.

**Iowanian** · 10-12-2012, 11:41 AM

Animals are not people.
Animals matter less than human beings.

He might be an asshole for what he did, but he did more time for a few dogs dying than most assholes who terrorize and harm their children.

If in this country a child abuser can get their children back after some of the terrible things they do, Mike Vick can have as many dogs as he wants. It's his public image and career that depend on how he treats them.

Bump · 10-12-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

It's a free country.

Child abusers get their kids back.............

This is a dog. An animal, not a human being.

only this animal was genetically created by man as all dogs are. They deserve care and love just like anything else.

listopencil · 10-12-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by h5n1

human beings technically ARE animals, dude. kingdom animalia.

I value all life. From plants to humans. The fact that I value life doesn't mean that I won't kill, it just means that I will only do so in a rational necessary manner. I would resolutely and without hesitation throw the switch myself to electrocute a gruesome killer. But I will happily pay taxes that go towards school lunch programs for poor children. I use a pest control service for my house because I won't live in an infested home. But I shoo bees away from my porch instead of killing them and if a spider makes it into my kitchen I'll catch it on a piece of paper and bring it outside into the orchard. Taking life is a serious and profound matter to me. Not an amusement.

listopencil · 10-12-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Animals are not people.
Animals matter less than human beings.

He might be an asshole for what he did, but he did more time for a few dogs dying than most assholes who terrorize and harm their children.

If in this country a child abuser can get their children back after some of the terrible things they do, Mike Vick can have as many dogs as he wants. It's his public image and career that depend on how he treats them.

I agree. The thing is that "the system" is set up to get parents and kids back together as much as they possibly can because in most cases that child has a deep psychological need to be with their parents. It's a sliding scale when it comes to determining whether a child should be removed from the household. It's more complicated than that.

Mr. Laz · 10-12-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise

Let the guy have a dog. I really doubt he's making it fight other dogs. So, what's the big deal.

the big deal is he was an mean asshole and should have to explain to his kids why they can't have a dog for the rest of his mean asshole life.

'sorry honey, but i used to make money off of killing and torturing dogs, so that's why you can't have a pet' /Vick

'i hate you, i hate you ... i hate you' /child

blaise · 10-12-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

the big deal is he was an mean asshole and should have to explain to his kids why they can't have a dog for the rest of his mean asshole life.

'sorry honey, but i used to make money off of killing and torturing dogs, so that's why you can't have a pet' /Vick

'i hate you, i hate you ... i hate you' /child

No he shouldn't. He went to prison for it. We don't need some kooky extra punishment where he can't have a dog.

ghak99 · 10-12-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Hypocritical piece of shit.

**** this guy and **** that he's "done the time." The dildo murdered a bunch of animals in cold blood and now he's found God and kindness and respect for the same animals he previously tortured? Lying, cocksucking, sociopathic pile of monkey shit.

It's times like this when I hope that the hypothetical Chinese type of Hell is the real deal.

I've "murdered" a bunch of animals in cold blood, and then I ate the little bastards. A few of them were even considered my "pet" at one time or another. Am I going to this Chinese hell you speak of? Should I go try to find god?

He served his time, let it go. If he is trying to teach his children to be better than he is, it sounds like the system worked.

ghak99 · 10-12-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

only this animal was genetically created by man as all dogs are. They deserve care and love just like anything else.

You do realize "man" bred certain lines of dogs to improve their meat quality, right?

**Easy 6** · 10-12-2012, 12:10 PM

Non story, this dog will live better than most people.

GloryDayz · 10-12-2012, 12:13 PM

Yes he should... This is further proof that sometimes we suq as a country.

Mr. Laz · 10-12-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Yes he should... This is further proof that sometimes we suq as a country.

don't do the crime, you won't have to live with it

KC_Lee · 10-12-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

only this animal was genetically created by man as all dogs are. They deserve care and love just like anything else.

BIG_DADDY · 10-12-2012, 12:30 PM

HSUS president Wayne Pacelle in an email declined to comment on the latest news.

Why would you look for one of the biggest POS in the entire world who advocates the entire elimination of all domestic animals to give you a comment? The media sucks ass.

Yes he should be able to have a dog now. I don't believe in scarlet letter legislation.

10-12-2012, 07:08 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3614454	Vick has a new dog in his life...Should he be allowed or no? http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...-advocacy.html The Milk Bones don't lie. Five years after agents raided his dog fighting compound in southern Virginia and rescued Handsome Dan, Sweet Jasmine and 49 other badly damaged pit bulls, Michael Vick owns a dog again. My colleague, Eagles beat writer Jeff McClane reported today that Vick released a statement saying he and his family had "obtained" a pet. The news comes just days after Vick watchers spotted a box of Milk Bones sitting on the kitchen table in a picture Tweeted by Vick. We don't know where the dog came from, its age, its breed or even its name. Under terms of his probation, Vick could not own a dog until May. Last fall his fiancee had purchased a parrot for their children and Vick spoke publicly on sevearl occasions of his desire to have a dog again for his children's sake. “I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family’s decision to care for a pet,” Vick said in a statement released by his publicist. “As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. Many people won't forget Vick's past "relationship with animals." Vick was sentenced to 18 months in prison for running an interstate dog fighting ring, not for animal abuse. But by his own admission, we know Vick beat his dogs with shovels, electrocuted them and drowned them. Many of his canine victims who were rescued went on to find loving homes. But some will spend their lives in shelters - thank you Best Friends Animal Society - because they are too psychologically damaged to be companion pets. [For a heart-stirring read on the fate of the surviving dogs read Jim Gorant's "The Lost Dogs."] News of Vick's signing by the Eagles in 2009 prompted outrage from Philadelphia's animal lovers and led to team's decision to invest hundreds of thousands in animal welfare causes across the region. At the same time Vick was embarking on his new, controversial relationship with the Humane Society of the United States, where he still serves as an advocate for animal welfare issues and educator appealing to inner city children to treat animals kindly. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle in an email declined to comment on the latest news. Vick in his statement sought to assuage concerns by telling the public that he hopes to instill humane values in his children. “I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God’s creatures with kindness and respect," he said. "Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family. Vick called the inclusion of a dog in his family's life as "an opportunity to break the cycle." And he promised he would "continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change.” Full Statement: "I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family's decision to care for a pet. As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God's creatures with kindness and respect. Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family. This is an opportunity to break the cycle. To that end, I will continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change."
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