Belcher to Pioli, "I Love you bro"

[kczoo]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...i-love-you-bro

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by notorious

No kidding.

It's hard to hate on Crennel. He is who he is.

Pioli made the mistake of hiring him for HC.

You can see it on his face. He's gone from smiley teddy to sad sack teddy. I can't help but wonder what another sad sack from the Patriot system coach, Charlie Weis, thinks about all of this.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This.

Pioli should be commended for trying to save the kid's life. He should be consoled for having to witness what he witnessed.

But calling him a "hero" seems a bit hyperbolic.

I am not going on the attack here, just throwing something out about this that has kind of struck me. In King's article he mentions the conflict that must have been running through Scott when asked to call RAC and Gibbs out side considering the situation. Would it have not been better to try and make a trade with Belcher, the gun for the chance to see those two? Instead of bringing them into that hairy situation?

And maybe he tried that, we don't know and may never know. But I certainly would not be too quick to anoint Piloi as a hero in the situation.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

I am not going on the attack here, just throwing something out about this that has kind of struck me. In King's article he mentions the conflict that must have been running through Scott when asked to call RAC and Gibbs out side considering the situation. Would it have not been better to try and make a trade with Belcher, the gun for the chance to see those two? Instead of bringing them into that hairy situation?

And maybe he tried that, we don't know and may never know. But I certainly would not be too quick to anoint Piloi as a hero in the situation.

Were you there? How do you know that Pioli didn't say, "I will call him and then you put down the gun.' Only to have Belcher refuse.

[notorious]

I will never judge a person that was put in Pioli's situation.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Were you there? How do you know that Pioli didn't say, "I will call him and then you put down the gun.' Only to have Belcher refuse.

JFC! Read the entire fucking post you illiterate twat. And then go throw yourself off the nearest tall bridge.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

JFC! Read the entire fucking post you illiterate twat. And then go throw yourself off the nearest tall bridge.

The reason I ask is that Pioli is a negotiator for a living and while I don't think he's properly trained to handle a situation like this, I do think his skills as a negotiator could have been useful for him.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by notorious

I will never judge a person that was put in Pioli's situation.

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[bevischief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't really care, as long as they are gone. It's Clark's money, not mine.

This.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

The reason I ask is that Pioli is a negotiator for a living and while I don't think he's properly trained to handle a situation like this, I do think his skills as a negotiator could have been useful for him.

The reason you asked is because you are fucking moron. I addressed the possibility that he did perhaps try. DIAF already.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Pioli's act as a man should have no bearing on what he's accomplished as a general manager. I understand people asking, but the answer should be the same as it was on Friday of last week. Performance in the position.

And it is. At least it is for you and I.

Meanwhile, Clark Hunt isn't you or I. He's a person that cut his teeth watching his dad let this team languish out of sheer loyalty. He's someone that was so opposed to major change that he needed to be pushed to axe Herm. He's clearly cautious to a fault.

Why isn't it fair to wonder whether or not the events of the last week have changed his mind? Not yours, not mine, but Clark Hunts? Because that's what we're discussing here and that's absolutely a viable question given what we know about Clark Hunt.

And yeah, that ultimately matters to me more than anything else to come out of this. Anyone that claims otherwise is full of shit. They're Chiefs fans and unless they light candles for every murder in KC, they only care about this particular murder because they're Chiefs fans. So to ask legitimate questions about the events impact on the Chiefs is wholly logical and perfectly sensible.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

The reason you asked is because you are fucking moron. I addressed the possibility that he did perhaps try. DIAF already.

This.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And it is. At least it is for you and I.

Meanwhile, Clark Hunt isn't you or I. He's a person that cut his teeth watching his dad let this team languish out of sheer loyalty. He's someone that was so opposed to major change that he needed to be pushed to axe Herm. He's clearly cautious to a fault.

Why isn't it fair to wonder whether or not the events of the last week have changed his mind? Not yours, not mine, but Clark Hunts? Because that's what we're discussing here and that's absolutely a viable question given what we know about Clark Hunt.

And yeah, that ultimately matters to me more than anything else to come out of this. Anyone that claims otherwise is full of shit. They're Chiefs fans and unless they light candles for every murder in KC, they only care about this particular murder because they're Chiefs fans. So to ask legitimate questions about the events impact on the Chiefs is wholly logical and perfectly sensible.

The perfect scenario is that Clark decides it's not worth his precious time away from golf and hookers and decides to put the team up for sale to other local owners and takes Romeo and Pioli with him on the way out.

[keg in kc]

Even I'm not cynical enough to think that Pioli is trying to spin this into positive PR. Christ. There's no real reason to think he isn't telling the truth.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And it is. At least it is for you and I.

Meanwhile, Clark Hunt isn't you or I. He's a person that cut his teeth watching his dad let this team languish out of sheer loyalty. He's someone that was so opposed to major change that he needed to be pushed to axe Herm. He's clearly cautious to a fault.

Why isn't it fair to wonder whether or not the events of the last week have changed his mind? Not yours, not mine, but Clark Hunts? Because that's what we're discussing here and that's absolutely a viable question given what we know about Clark Hunt.

And yeah, that ultimately matters to me more than anything else to come out of this. Anyone that claims otherwise is full of shit. They're Chiefs fans and unless they light candles for every murder in KC, they only care about this particular murder because they're Chiefs fans. So to ask legitimate questions about the events impact on the Chiefs is wholly logical and perfectly sensible.

Good post.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

The reason I ask is that Pioli is a negotiator for a living and while I don't think he's properly trained to handle a situation like this, I do think his skills as a negotiator could have been useful for him.

Even the best trained and experienced negotiators for this kind of situation may not have had any different outcome. Pioli negotiates contracts not if one should blow his head off or not. Pioli just happens to be the GM that negotiated Bitchlers contract & gave him the opportunity. That is all Pioli has done for him to put himself in that spot at that time. Bitchler took the opportunity to play in the NFL & if he hadn't done that then he could have still ended up killing someone as the person he became. A killer and a coward. The situation is just ****ed up. I feel bad for Pioli and Crennel and Gibbs to have to see him pull the trigger.

I feel worse for the grandmother & daughter of the woman he shot. They are the real heros that they have had the most loss of their lives taken away & they have to deal with it.