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Old 12-07-2012, 12:35 PM   #1
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the problem here is there is a lot of players around the league that strictly make a living off special teams and kick off and kick return squads.

like whole careers. whether its a kick returner getting a chance to make a name for himself because hes a fast player who is last on the depth chart at WR, CB, HB, etc or a LBer buried as 5th string but can run down and make a tackle every game on kickoff, to maybe the situational young kicker who can kick the ball 100 yards with no accuracy and cant beat out the 45 year old guy on the team who makes field goals but cant kick more than 30 yards.

essentially youd be cutting team rosters down to like 35-40 some guys. You wouldnt even need 53 players, plus a practice squad anymore. Essentially a whole new system. Taking away special teams eliminates 3rd string players on NFL rosters
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:08 PM   #2
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the problem here is there is a lot of players around the league that strictly make a living off special teams and kick off and kick return squads.

like whole careers. whether its a kick returner getting a chance to make a name for himself because hes a fast player who is last on the depth chart at WR, CB, HB, etc or a LBer buried as 5th string but can run down and make a tackle every game on kickoff, to maybe the situational young kicker who can kick the ball 100 yards with no accuracy and cant beat out the 45 year old guy on the team who makes field goals but cant kick more than 30 yards.

essentially youd be cutting team rosters down to like 35-40 some guys. You wouldnt even need 53 players, plus a practice squad anymore. Essentially a whole new system. Taking away special teams eliminates 3rd string players on NFL rosters
You're not eliminating special teams. You're replacing a kickoff with a punt.

Did anybody even look at what was being proposed?
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:34 PM   #3
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You're not eliminating special teams. You're replacing a kickoff with a punt.

Did anybody even look at what was being proposed?
you understand the difference between a punt and a kickoff yes?

like the difference between 10 different roster spots id guess.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:52 PM   #4
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Did anybody even look at what was being proposed?
Yes. It's called garbage.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:57 PM   #5
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Yes. It's called garbage.
Well, the alternative is no kickoff or punt of any kind.

I realize people don't want football to change but the cold, hard reality is that it is GOING TO, whether we want it to or not.

In that vein, we should all be open to exploring alternatives that maintain some semblance of the game we know today.

Or we can cross our arms, reject all change, and then bitch when they outlaw tackling and make them use flags...
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:59 PM   #6
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Well, the alternative is no kickoff or punt of any kind.

I realize people don't want football to change but the cold, hard reality is that it is GOING TO, whether we want it to or not.

In that vein, we should all be open to exploring alternatives that maintain some semblance of the game we know today.

Or we can cross our arms, reject all change, and then bitch when they outlaw tackling and make them use flags...
Nah. I think I'll just stop watching it. It already sucks and they're seemingly in a race to make it even worse.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:02 PM   #7
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Nah. I think I'll just stop watching it. It already sucks and they're seemingly in a race to make it even worse.
That's certainly a viable alternative.

I just don't get the outrage over KICKOFFS.

People bitch about kickers all the time. FG suck. Touchbacks suck.

But when they propose replacing the kickoff, people go all "bah, what are they doing? next thing you know they'll get rid of leather helmets."

It's silly.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:06 PM   #8
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That's certainly a viable alternative.

I just don't get the outrage over KICKOFFS.

People bitch about kickers all the time. FG suck. Touchbacks suck.

But when they propose replacing the kickoff, people go all "bah, what are they doing? next thing you know they'll get rid of leather helmets."

It's silly.
Really, you're going to compare equipment upgrades to removing something that's been an integral part of the game for 100 years? Speaking of silly.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:52 PM   #9
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That's certainly a viable alternative.

I just don't get the outrage over KICKOFFS.

People bitch about kickers all the time. FG suck. Touchbacks suck.

But when they propose replacing the kickoff, people go all "bah, what are they doing? next thing you know they'll get rid of leather helmets."

It's silly.
As a completely ironic aside, I think if they went back to having no helmets we might see the concussion problem go down. I think the awesome helmets lead players to hit with their heads more often.
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You're not eliminating special teams. You're replacing a kickoff with a punt.

Did anybody even look at what was being proposed?
You really need to stop trying to sell this turd. You're a lot smarter than that.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:58 PM   #11
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You really need to stop trying to sell this turd. You're a lot smarter than that.
See my response to Dave.

You can't stop the changes that are coming. Our only hope as fans is to steer them...
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