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displacedinMN · 08:32 AM

This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get.
This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts.

Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre
By Jana Hollingsworth
Duluth News Tribune
Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST

A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university.

Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact.

UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university.

Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless.

Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama,
in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook."

Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel."

The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment."

Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university.

"There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability."

Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said.

But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website.

"For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view."

"I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous."

Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006.

He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks.

As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us."

KC native · 01-06-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I can barely wrap my mind around the irony of this bullshit statement.

OH MY GOD 70 PEOPLE OUT OF 313,000,000 WERE KILLED IN MASS SHOOTINGS LAST YEAR!!! CONFISCATE ALL THE GUNZ SO I'LL BE SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're so ****ing dumb that you can't even be dumb correctly.

Again, you argue against my post like I said we need gun control. I didn't.

But keep up your hysterics though. It's amusing to watch you go ape shit over things I never said nor implied. You really are an overly emotional woman.

KChiefer · 01-06-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

No, I believe the cop who said he found the gun in the car initially, ****tard.

Or do you think he mistook an umbrella for a rifle?

Or a shotgun which was reported to have been in the car, unused. An official report will come out, and it's going to make you look foolish.

KC native · 01-06-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

What, you think a white man can't change oil on a car? Racist!

I mainly enjoy pushing your buttons, ****. Your squealing makes me laugh.

And this post shows how delusional you really are.

All of the squealing on this subject has been done by idiots like you. Keep building those strawmen and knocking them down though.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

Or a shotgun which was reported to have been in the car, unused. An official report will come out, and it's going to make you look foolish.

Yeah, those never get edited or anything, do they?

I can't believe how utterly naive you clowns are.

MUST BE TRUE I SAW IT ON MSNBC HERP DERP

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

Again, you argue against my post like I said we need gun control. I didn't.

But keep up your hysterics though. It's amusing to watch you go ape shit over things I never said nor implied. You really are an overly emotional woman.

Right. You just blindly support the people who champion it.

Oh I forgot - gun laws don't apply to criminals. Is that why you don't care about them?

KC native · 01-06-2013, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Right. You just blindly support the people who champion it.

Oh I forgot - gun laws don't apply to criminals. Is that why you don't care about them?

QUICK ANOTHER STRAW MAN BATMAN

I've been very critical of both political parties. Don't let that get in your way though.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

QUICK ANOTHER STRAW MAN BATMAN

I've been very critical of both political parties. Don't let that get in your way though.

Most people don't consider being a mugger to be gainful employment, you know.

KC native · 01-06-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Most people don't consider being a mugger to be gainful employment, you know.

Keep slinging shit against the wall and hope something sticks fat man.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native

Keep slinging shit against the wall and hope something sticks fat man.

Seems to be sticking to you just fine.

DANCE, MONKEY, DANCE!

LiveSteam · 01-06-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

I see you're still training your kid for a life on the pole.

She is an A student but thanks for your concern ya pedophile.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

She is an A student but thanks for your concern ya pedophile.

His is already picking pockets.

LiveSteam · 01-06-2013, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

She is an A student but thanks for your concern ya pedophile.

Congratulations LiveSteam for breaking 10,000 posts!

KC native · 01-06-2013, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Seems to be sticking to you just fine.

DANCE, MONKEY, DANCE!

I love the spastic redirections when you realize your attempted "trolling" doesn't work.

I also love the fact that you think you're trolling me or pushing my buttons even more. You have been a hysterical whining bitch about all of these arguments. You aren't pushing anyone's buttons.

KChiefer · 01-06-2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Yeah, those never get edited or anything, do they?

I can't believe how utterly naive you clowns are.

MUST BE TRUE I SAW IT ON MSNBC HERP DERP

Still better than hanging my hat on a youtube video of a lone officer's statement when initial information ran the gambit of who/what was involved.

And when the report says he used it, what are you left with? Oh yeah, "It's a government/media conspiracy!!! Just like how the moon landing was filmed in a bunker beneath the grassy knoll!!!"

KC native · 01-06-2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

She is an A student but thanks for your concern ya pedophile.

That's nice. What's she going to do when her lunatic dad gets stuck in prison or gets stuck in the neck again?

01-05-2013, 08:26 AM
displacedinMN Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $11186	Newtown shooting theory-the government did it. This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get. This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts. Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre By Jana Hollingsworth Duluth News Tribune Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings. In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university. Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact. UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university. Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless. Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama, in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook." Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel." The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment." Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university. "There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability." Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said. But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website. "For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view." "I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous." Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006. He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks. As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us." Last edited by displacedinMN; 01-05-2013 at 08:32 AM..
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