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Old 01-11-2013, 01:22 PM   #1
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Honest question...

In what ways is Barkley better than Smith?
The stuff I've read gives Smith the edge with speed, mobility, and arm strength, but they give Barkley the edge in accuracy, mental make-up, and leadership. Smith's biggest knock seems to be a gunslinger mentality that contributes to poor accuracy on intermediate and deep throws (which has been masked by solid WV recievers,) while his strenghts include athleticism/mobility. The knock on Barley seems to center on arm strength and durability, and his strengths production and intangibles.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #2
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The stuff I've read gives Smith the edge with speed, mobility, and arm strength, but they give Barkley the edge in accuracy, mental make-up, and leadership. Smith's biggest knock seems to be a gunslinger mentality that contributes to poor accuracy on intermediate and deep throws (which has been masked by solid WV recievers,) while his strenghts include athleticism/mobility. The knock on Barley seems to center on arm strength and durability, and his strengths production and intangibles.
Barkley IS ****ing Ca$$hole in every way.

Everything about him reminds me of him...
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:26 PM   #3
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Barkley IS ****ing Ca$$hole in every way.

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Wow.

Couldn't be more wrong.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #4
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Wow.

Couldn't be more wrong.
We'll see...
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:37 PM   #5
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Barkley IS ****ing Ca$$hole in every way.

Everything about him reminds me of him...
I've talked with some SC fans who would strongly disagree...
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:40 PM   #6
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I've talked with some SC fans who would strongly disagree...
Eh.....I'd disagree.

I don't want him.

In any round. Not even the 7th...
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:08 PM   #7
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I've talked with some SC fans who would strongly disagree...
Of course they don't, they can will him to greatness all they want, but at the end of the day he is what he is, a Mark Cassel clone.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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Barkley IS ****ing Ca$$hole in every way.

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Dude...
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:44 PM   #9
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Same school, same first name, same number must be the same ****ing player.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:53 PM   #10
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Same school, same first name, same number must be the same ****ing player.
Same weak arm, average mobility, unimpressive play...
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #11
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Same school, same first name, same number must be the same ****ing player.
I'm sorry but USC QBs are the most hyped garbage I've ever seen.

What you fail to understand is all USC QBs are going to look somewhat good...Why? Because they get the best recruits year after year. It's easy for USC QBs to show some kind of ability. When youre getting awards like "program of the decade"

USC QBs, No ****ing thanks.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #12
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What you fail to understand is all USC QBs are going to look somewhat good...Why? Because they get the best recruits year after year. It's easy for USC QBs to show some kind of ability. When youre getting awards like "program of the decade"


So where do they get their QBs?
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So where do they get their QBs?
You can plug in just about any QB with some sort of skill at USC. Thats what i'm saying.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #14
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The stuff I've read gives Smith the edge with speed, mobility, and arm strength, but they give Barkley the edge in accuracy, mental make-up, and leadership. Smith's biggest knock seems to be a gunslinger mentality that contributes to poor accuracy on intermediate and deep throws (which has been masked by solid WV recievers,) while his strenghts include athleticism/mobility. The knock on Barley seems to center on arm strength and durability, and his strengths production and intangibles.
When it comes to the underneath stuff, Barkley has great timing so he's very accurate.

On the deep stuff, it's no contest. Smith is accurate and delivers the ball on time. Barkley tends to float stuff.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:41 PM   #15
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When it comes to the underneath stuff, Barkley has great timing so he's very accurate.

On the deep stuff, it's no contest. Smith is accurate and delivers the ball on time. Barkley tends to float stuff.
That's interesting, because while I've read similar takes....it depends on perspective. According to some Smith's accuracy is a result of a superior corp of very athletic receivers who make catches a lot of players would not--and that he sacrifices "touch" for velocity, whereas Barkley lacks a cannon he is reputably better with touch, placement of the ball, and as you say timing.

I'm not a big college FB follower (no time,) and haven't seen more than a handfull of games by either. However, what I have seen....seems consistent with those takes. Guess we'll see what Andy thinks in the coming months though.
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