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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 PM  
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***Official Draft Tyler Wilson Thread****

...might as well get this started early.

Perhaps his injury well allow him to slip to the middle of the of the 1st round,..where we tend to draft.




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Old 01-24-2013, 09:29 AM   #1216
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neither Wilson nor Smith's skill set or game film has changed one iota since the end of the season...


it's hilarious how people treat this like it was an episode of Survivor..."oh, I don't like Johnny anymore...he shouldn't have done that"
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:31 AM   #1217
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I'm slowly coming around on him. Show me something that could make me think he's better then Geno though. I still haven't really seen it besides the fact that he played in a pro style offense.
I mean not to sound like I'm slamming Geno but yeah you can make an argument.

SEC tested. Pro system. Not as much talent to work with. Stronger arm.

I like them both but thing their styles are pretty different.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:31 AM   #1218
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I would still rather have Geno.



In OUR opinion.

It only matters what teams think about it. They likely won't care much, if at all.

Again, guys skip the Senior Bowl ALL THE TIME.
I agree but, most guys that skip are much better prosepcts that have less flaws. IMO, the truth is that Wilson fits Reid's system better and is ready to play right now. I think this because of his ability to scramble. I think that will appeal to Reid. I also think that Wilson throws into tighter pockets more consistantly and is used to tighter coverage from playing in the SEC. Wilson definately reads defenses better after the ball is snapped and I think that will be a big sticking point in the next month or two. Wilson has had fewer problems with his game over time too. Geno had major footwork problems until this year and his feet are still not perfect. It will all be over analyzed soon imo.

I don't believe Geno could start from day one. I know I am in the minority but, the learning curve will be greater because of the offense he ran in college.

Note: I know Geno ran an offense that had him under center most of the time a couple of years ago but, it was a college offense and it has been a while.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:33 AM   #1219
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If Reid goes with him it's going to be based on the little things. His interviews, what coaches have to say about him, playing in a pro-style offense, and playing in the SEC. Now I'm not bashing, but Geno's tape shows better so it's going to have to come down to character and what they feel he can develop into.

I don't think there is anything that I can show you that will convince you that Wilson is better than Geno at the moment. I would like to see this as well if I am way off base here.
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He isn't better than Geno.

Geno and Wilson are two completely different types of QB's.

IMO, Geno is the smooth and cool QB. Tyler is the gritty gunslinger.

It's a matter of preference.
Thank you for the thoughts.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:34 AM   #1220
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I agree but, most guys that skip are much better prosepcts that have less flaws. IMO, the truth is that Wilson fits Reid's system better and is ready to play right now. I think this because of his ability to scramble. I think that will appeal to Reid. I also think that Wilson throws into tighter pockets more consistantly and is used to tighter coverage from playing in the SEC. Wilson definately reads defenses better after the ball is snapped and I think that will be a big sticking point in the next month or two.

I don't believe Geno could start from day one. I know I am in the minority but, the learning curve will be greater because of the offense he ran in college.

Note: I know he ran an offense that had him under center most of the time a couple of years ago but, it was a college offense and it has been a while.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:40 AM   #1221
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Tyler.... even though I'm an Arkansas fan, look at the defenses he's played against on a weekly basis... SEC defenses are the most comparable to the NFL.. This last year, he played well with no real help from the backfield or offensive line against rediculous circumstances with the whole Petrino debacle. The year previous, as a junior, He lead the SEC in passing. This is a nobrainer for me. He would be an immediate upgrade and should be the #1 pick of the draft. I'm not going to get my hopes up though. Bowe is the only player that I hoped that the Chiefs would take first and did. This kid is a gamer and a leader with all of the criteria. My argument for him being the take is simply the caliber of defenses he played against and his fearlessness.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:47 AM   #1222
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He isn't better than Geno.

Geno and Wilson are two completely different types of QB's.

IMO, Geno is the smooth and cool QB. Tyler is the gritty gunslinger.

It's a matter of preference.
This is a REALLY good post here, especially the bolded part.

Do you like pepperoni or canadian bacon? They're both popular toppings and they both make for GREAT pizza.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:48 AM   #1223
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This is a REALLY good post here, especially the bolded part.

Do you like pepperoni or canadian bacon? They're both popular toppings and they both make for GREAT pizza.
Yep. That's is indeed how I see it.
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Yep. That's is indeed how I see it.
Care to rethink this htismaqe?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:53 AM   #1225
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I agree but, most guys that skip are much better prosepcts that have less flaws.
Again, in our minds. Not the minds of the actual scouts.

For all we know, he's been told "you're going top 5, kid".

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IMO, the truth is that Wilson fits Reid's system better and is ready to play right now. I think this because of his ability to scramble. I think that will appeal to Reid.
Reid's "system" was custom-tailored to fit Donovan McNabb. Geno is much closer to McNabb than Wilson is. I see this one completely different than you do.

Wilson is a better fit in the pure WCO, Geno is a better fit in REID'S particular offense.

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I also think that Wilson throws into tighter pockets more consistantly and is used to tighter coverage from playing in the SEC.
Agree.

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Wilson definately reads defenses better after the ball is snapped and I think that will be a big sticking point in the next month or two.
Don't agree.

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Wilson has had fewer problems with his game over time too.
Vehemently disagree.

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Geno had major footwork problems until this year and his feet are still not perfect. It will all be over analyzed soon imo.
Major? Don't think so. But yes, his footwork will be analyzed thoroughly in the coming weeks. It is a concern.

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I don't believe Geno could start from day one. I know I am in the minority but, the learning curve will be greater because of the offense he ran in college.
There's a reason you're in the minority here and I'll leave it at that.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:53 AM   #1226
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Care to rethink this htismaqe?
Rethink what?
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I also should say here that even though the "Pistol" style quarterback is becoming increasingly popular because of RGIII, Russell Wilson & Newton (who's already fading), I think the upside and longevity of this style quarterback is not trustworthy (Vick, Young, etc.). I don't like the Geno idea. Wilson is mobile, smart and tough as nails with an accurate gun.
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I also should say here that even though the "Pistol" style quarterback is becoming increasingly popular because of RGIII, Russell Wilson & Newton (who's already fading), I think the upside and longevity of this style quarterback is not trustworthy (Vick, Young, etc.). I don't like the Geno idea. Wilson is mobile, smart and tough as nails with an accurate gun.
Geno is nothing like any of them. He's a pure pocket passer. Jfc
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Geno is nothing like any of them. He's a pure pocket passer. Jfc
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