Alex Smith to ask for release

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

How's he reinventing anything?

He's going to be the same QB he's always been, he's just going to be asked to do it more often.

Again - being asked to do the same thing slightly more often isn't being asked to do an entirely different thing. He's not suddenly going to be asked to be Peyton Manning out there, lining up the O and running a no-huddle. He's also not going to be asked to be Eli Manning, bombing balls downfield to Cruz and Nicks. He's going to be asked to run a WCO and hit WRs and RBs in space to give them room to make plays.

And like I said, Reid's teams don't utilize a true play-action set, but they do use the short passing game to create a similar impact. You act like play-fakes are like hitting a turbo button in Madden - no, they just get the LBs to freeze a little bit or safeties to bite - well that can be done by having Charles run out into the flat or by having Smith look to his slot WR as a first 'fauxption' before going to his true first read.

Reid has misdirection in his offenses, they're just slightly different. Of those 40 passes you're worried about, 10 of them will be off designed quick passes to the first read and/or RB - little stuff that is little more than a handoff in the grand scheme of things.

You're vastly overstating what changes Smith would have to make to his game and you're also underestimating what kind of tweaks Reid will have to make to his to fit the present personnel.

That's what I'm afraid of. Game manager not game winner. Draft a quarterback with our first and quit bringing in retreads. True fans. I swear.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

That's what I'm afraid of. Game manager not game winner. Draft a quarterback with our first and quit bringing in retreads. True fans. I swear.

Blow me.

I've wanted Geno Smith for over a year and still do. But unlike you and some others, I'm not going to manipulate facts to fit my narrative.

Smith's a fine NFL quarterback. 'smaqe has the most legitimate concern of all - he may be just good enough to put us into quarterback purgatory, in fact. Alex Smith could make us the Houston Texans, for sure.

But don't sit here and act like Smith couldn't be successful in Reid's system - he absolutely could be.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Blow me.

I've wanted Geno Smith for over a year and still do. But unlike you and some others, I'm not going to manipulate facts to fit my narrative.

Smith's a fine NFL quarterback. 'smaqe has the most legitimate concern of all - he may be just good enough to put us into quarterback purgatory, in fact. Alex Smith could make us the Houston Texans, for sure.

But don't sit here and act like Smith couldn't be successful in Reid's system - he absolutely could be.

Alex Smith is an average quarterback and yes he could find success with Andy Reid I am not say he can't but the fear of exactly what htismaqe says holds the same for me. I am sick of retread QUARTERBACKS PERIOD! Alex Smith is no different than the quarterbacks we have seen for the past 30 years. Sick of it. Draft Geno #1 and we can start somewhere other than other teams rejects. We don't need to pay Alex Smith on this team, he wasn't good enough for 9ers why do we keep wanting bring in retreads? **** Alex Smith

**** Alex Smith

**** Alex Smith & the "true fan" that want's to bring him here.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Alex Smith is an average quarterback and yes he could find success with Andy Reid I am not say he can't but the fear of exactly what htismaqe says holds the same for me. I am sick of retread QUARTERBACKS PERIOD! Alex Smith is no different than the quarterbacks we have seen for the past 30 years. Sick of it. Draft Geno #1 and we can start somewhere other than other teams rejects. We don't need to pay Alex Smith on this team, he wasn't good enough for 9ers why do we keep wanting bring in retreads? **** Alex Smith

**** Alex Smith

**** Alex Smith & the "true fan" that want's to bring him here.

Ah...so emotion and animus as the foundation for building a 53 man roster.

Got it.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ah...so emotion and animus as the foundation for building a 53 man roster.

Got it.

Got it so you aprove of how Carl Peterson and Scott Pioli did things to bring us a Super Bowl Championship. Bringing in Alex Smith is no different than what they did.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Got it so you aprove of how Carl Peterson and Scott ***** did things to bring us a Super Bowl Championship. Bringing in Alex Smith is no different than what they did.

So you're going to continue to try to get the angry mob on your side by ignoring the substance of my posts and instead citing names that you know people won't like, eh?

You really suck at this.

Go ahead and point out where I endorsed bringing in Alex Smith instead of Geno Smith.

I'll wait...

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So you're going to continue to try to get the angry mob on your side by ignoring the substance of my posts and instead citing names that you know people won't like, eh?

You really suck at this.

Go ahead and point out where I endorsed bringing in Alex Smith instead of Geno Smith.

I'll wait...

I have read that you want Geno Smith I am super cool with that. You also suggest that bringing in Alex Smith would be a good thing. I argue with that on that notion.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But don't sit here and act like Smith couldn't be successful in Reid's system - he absolutely could be.

Not wanting Alex Smith is more an issue of pride for me than anything. I imagine it's the same for other posters.

Even though Smith is a far more talented QB than Cassel, and even though he'd be coming aboard as a stop gap to our first round QB in this scenario, it's just been such a shitfest the past seven years that I can't take anymore. We took New England's 3rd stringer (Damon Huard) and made him our STARTER. And if that wasn't bad enough, we paid for their backup and started him for four ****ing years.

The list goes on. Even Trent Green was a piece of garbage that another team didn't want.

Irrational as it may seem, I don't want to deal with this shit again. We've been through so much bullshit in 7 or so seasons that this is what it has come down to. The fans are so battered and frustrated by QB games that what should normally be a positive acquisition would become another pie in the face.

I'll probably forget all about this if we sign Smith AND draft a QB at #1. But that doesn't mean it won't leave a shitty taste in my mouth initially.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by SNR

Not wanting Alex Smith is more an issue of pride for me than anything. I imagine it's the same for other posters.

Even though Smith is a far more talented QB than Cassel, and even though he'd be coming aboard as a stop gap to our first round QB in this scenario, it's just been such a shitfest the past seven years that I can't take anymore. We took New England's 3rd stringer (Damon Huard) and made him our STARTER. And if that wasn't bad enough, we paid for their backup and started him for four ****ing years.

The list goes on. Even Trent Green was a piece of garbage that another team didn't want.

Irrational as it may seem, I don't want to deal with this shit again. We've been through so much bullshit in 7 or so seasons that this is what it has come down to. The fans are so battered and frustrated by QB games that what should normally be a positive acquisition would become another pie in the face.

I'll probably forget all about this if we sign Smith AND draft a QB at #1. But that doesn't mean it won't leave a shitty taste in my mouth initially.

That's really my point.

Yeah, I want Geno Smith in here, but that's not going to stop me from looking objectively at Alex Smith. And you bring up a very good name with Trent Green - they're very similar players and Trent Green was not the reason we failed under Vermeil.

One can argue strongly in favor of Geno without having to shit on Alex. Geno is a good enough prospect to succeed on his merits and win on argument solely on the strength of same. As this is an Alex Smith thread and not yet another Geno Smith thread, shouldn't we try to discuss Smith in a vacuum? Or at least with some degree of objectivity?

Alex Smith could easily be another Trent Green for us. And while that's not as sexy as being the next Aaron Rodgers - there's value in it.

I'll be damn bummed out if we go with Alex over Geno. But there's some chicken salad that could eventually be made out of it.

And with the loads of chicken shit we've been shoveled over the last 1/2 decade, a little chicken salad would be a nice start.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SNR

Not wanting Alex Smith is more an issue of pride for me than anything. I imagine it's the same for other posters.

Even though Smith is a far more talented QB than Cassel, and even though he'd be coming aboard as a stop gap to our first round QB in this scenario, it's just been such a shitfest the past seven years that I can't take anymore. We took New England's 3rd stringer (Damon Huard) and made him our STARTER. And if that wasn't bad enough, we paid for their backup and started him for four ****ing years.

The list goes on. Even Trent Green was a piece of garbage that another team didn't want.

Irrational as it may seem, I don't want to deal with this shit again. We've been through so much bullshit in 7 or so seasons that this is what it has come down to. The fans are so battered and frustrated by QB games that what should normally be a positive acquisition would become another pie in the face.

I'll probably forget all about this if we sign Smith AND draft a QB at #1. But that doesn't mean it won't leave a shitty taste in my mouth initially.

This is kind of where I'm at.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by SNR

Not wanting Alex Smith is more an issue of pride for me than anything. I imagine it's the same for other posters.

Even though Smith is a far more talented QB than Cassel, and even though he'd be coming aboard as a stop gap to our first round QB in this scenario, it's just been such a shitfest the past seven years that I can't take anymore. We took New England's 3rd stringer (Damon Huard) and made him our STARTER. And if that wasn't bad enough, we paid for their backup and started him for four ****ing years.

The list goes on. Even Trent Green was a piece of garbage that another team didn't want.

Irrational as it may seem, I don't want to deal with this shit again. We've been through so much bullshit in 7 or so seasons that this is what it has come down to. The fans are so battered and frustrated by QB games that what should normally be a positive acquisition would become another pie in the face.

I'll probably forget all about this if we sign Smith AND draft a QB at #1. But that doesn't mean it won't leave a shitty taste in my mouth initially.

I agree. I want to draft a QB #1 and have a shitty backup (Cassel esqe) that way when the young QB struggles I don't have to hear idiot Chiefs fans wanting the backup to play, which is what will happen if Alex Smith or Flynn is here.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Blow me.

I've wanted Geno Smith for over a year and still do. But unlike you and some others, I'm not going to manipulate facts to fit my narrative.

Smith's a fine NFL quarterback. 'smaqe has the most legitimate concern of all - he may be just good enough to put us into quarterback purgatory, in fact. Alex Smith could make us the Houston Texans, for sure.

But don't sit here and act like Smith couldn't be successful in Reid's system - he absolutely could be.

Esto.