Chiefs Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? - Page 12

HolyHat · 02:51 AM

We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

Hootie · 02-17-2013, 03:59 PM

I can't fathom how THIS FRANCHISE and fans of SAID FRANCHISE don't think Cam Newton is worthy of our #1 pick.

My God. You are all so easily influenced by the media.

RyFo18 · 02-17-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I can't fathom how THIS FRANCHISE and fans of SAID FRANCHISE don't think Cam Newton is worthy of our #1 pick.

My God. You are all so easily influenced by the media.

I'm about 99% positive that the people saying this are the same people that were saying Gabbert was better than Newton.

They won't admit that though.

HolyHat · 02-17-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18

I'm about 99% positive that the people saying this are the same people that were saying Gabbert was better than Newton.

They won't admit that though.

What's a Gabbert?

TheGuardian · 02-17-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I can't fathom how THIS FRANCHISE and fans of SAID FRANCHISE don't think Cam Newton is worthy of our #1 pick.

My God. You are all so easily influenced by the media.

WTF is Cam's record as a starter, dipshit?

HolyHat · 02-17-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

WTF is Cam's record as a starter, dipshit?

13-19

Hootie · 02-17-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

WTF is Cam's record as a starter, dipshit?

?

and?

he has been in the league for two years

the dude seeps talent; he may or may not get his head straight but he's worth every bit the risk a Geno Smith is worth

The Panthers lost to the Chiefs this year...Cam Newton played fantastic. That was his fault they lost?

RyFo18 · 02-17-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

WTF is Cam's record as a starter, dipshit?

Using this argument, you're implying Tim Tebow is better than Cam. Or that Weeden was better than RGIII or Luck in college. Who's the dipshit?

Hammock Parties · 02-17-2013, 04:15 PM

Peyton Manning was 3-13 his first season.

TheGuardian · 02-17-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18

Using this argument, you're implying Tim Tebow is better than Cam. Or that Weeden was better than RGIII or Luck in college. Who's the dipshit?

Anyone who thinks Cam would be worth giving up the #1 overall for. That's who.

A truly great QB elevates his team to win. Newton celebrates scoring a touchdown in a blowout. The dude is an idiot. And so are you and the other bundle of sticks in this thread clamoring for him.

Hammock Parties · 02-17-2013, 04:17 PM

Jim Kelly was 4-12 and 6-6 before he did shit in the NFL....

RyFo18 · 02-17-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Anyone who thinks Cam would be worth giving up the #1 overall for. That's who.

A truly great QB elevates his team to win. Newton celebrates scoring a touchdown in a blowout. The dude is an idiot. And so are you and the other pillowbiter in this thread clamoring for him.

Lolwut?

Hammock Parties · 02-17-2013, 04:19 PM

Aikman didn't win shit his first two years...list goes on and on.

Never change, Chiefs Nation.

Hootie · 02-17-2013, 04:19 PM

that was the dumbest thing I've read in a while...

judging a 23 year old QB who was raw coming out of college by his W/L record

like I said, us Chiefs fans witnessed 1 of our 2 wins against Cam's Panthers and Cam played really well. Threw 3 TD's against 0 picks and ran for 80 yards.

He also ended his season on a 4 game winning streak. All he needs is a coach to adhere to his strengths and he can be every bit as good as a Colin Kaepernick.

Shit, the reason I'm so high on Kaepernick is because his head is screwed on straight. The only flaw Newton has is the fact he may never "get it."

I do think he has the intelligence to get it, he just has to want to. Still, definitely worth the risk of our #1 in 2012 for this hypothetical scenario that would never happen.

Carolina wouldn't trade Cam for anything. Anything short of a QB like Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck or Colin Kaepernick that is. Again, unrealistic.

But yeah...in this unrealistic hypothetical trade scenario, you absolutely trade the #1 in 2012 for Cam Newton.

Hootie · 02-17-2013, 04:21 PM

you're bashing Newton for celebrating when his team is getting blown out? Fine. That's fair. That's immaturity. No doubt. Immature, 22 year old move.

Basing that on saying he has no value because of it? Ridiculous. Stupid.

Pure stupidity.

Peyton Manning threw his entire team under the bus one year in the playoffs after they lost. Immature move. Shit happens in the heat of the battle. Do I cringe when I see Dwayne Bowe celebrate when we are losing by 30? Yes.

Is it a big deal? No.

Titty Meat · 02-17-2013, 04:22 PM

I dont know how you can blame that all on cam that team was 1-15 when he took over and they had cap issues.

The defense did Cam no favors. This years game against us was a great example.

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02-17-2013, 02:39 AM
HolyHat No mayonnaise for me today!!! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10005533	Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread. I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins. He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years. 58.9% comp \| 7,920 yards pass \| 40 passing TDs \| 29 INTS \| 1,447 rush yards \| 22 rushing TDs \| Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? Last edited by HolyHat; 02-17-2013 at 02:51 AM..
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02-17-2013, 03:59 PM	#166
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I can't fathom how THIS FRANCHISE and fans of SAID FRANCHISE don't think Cam Newton is worthy of our #1 pick. My God. You are all so easily influenced by the media.
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02-17-2013, 04:15 PM	#173
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $900478	Peyton Manning was 3-13 his first season. __________________ Chiefs game films
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02-17-2013, 04:19 PM	#177
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02-17-2013, 04:19 PM	#178
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	that was the dumbest thing I've read in a while... judging a 23 year old QB who was raw coming out of college by his W/L record like I said, us Chiefs fans witnessed 1 of our 2 wins against Cam's Panthers and Cam played really well. Threw 3 TD's against 0 picks and ran for 80 yards. He also ended his season on a 4 game winning streak. All he needs is a coach to adhere to his strengths and he can be every bit as good as a Colin Kaepernick. Shit, the reason I'm so high on Kaepernick is because his head is screwed on straight. The only flaw Newton has is the fact he may never "get it." I do think he has the intelligence to get it, he just has to want to. Still, definitely worth the risk of our #1 in 2012 for this hypothetical scenario that would never happen. Carolina wouldn't trade Cam for anything. Anything short of a QB like Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck or Colin Kaepernick that is. Again, unrealistic. But yeah...in this unrealistic hypothetical trade scenario, you absolutely trade the #1 in 2012 for Cam Newton.
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02-17-2013, 04:21 PM	#179
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you're bashing Newton for celebrating when his team is getting blown out? Fine. That's fair. That's immaturity. No doubt. Immature, 22 year old move. Basing that on saying he has no value because of it? Ridiculous. Stupid. Pure stupidity. Peyton Manning threw his entire team under the bus one year in the playoffs after they lost. Immature move. Shit happens in the heat of the battle. Do I cringe when I see Dwayne Bowe celebrate when we are losing by 30? Yes. Is it a big deal? No.
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02-17-2013, 04:22 PM	#180
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1082442	I dont know how you can blame that all on cam that team was 1-15 when he took over and they had cap issues. The defense did Cam no favors. This years game against us was a great example.
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