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Old 02-21-2013, 08:12 PM  
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Nick Foles News

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/2...-eagles-chiefs

The Kansas City Chiefs still don't have a reliable starting quarterback for the 2013 season, a glaring issue that will assuredly be addressed in the coming months. One possibility for Andy Reid and his new team could be to bring in the quarterback he drafted last year out of Arizona, and as Chris Mortensen sees it, the Chiefs would have to give up at least a third-round pick to do so.

For more on the Chiefs offseason, head over to Arrowhead Pride.

Mortensen said on ESPN's "NFL 32" a third-rounder would probably be the going rate to acquire Foles. He seems to believe Kansas City is inclined to head to the bargaining table for the 24-year-old passer.

Clearly the connection between Reid and Foles would be a starting point to these negotiations. He drafted Foles in Round 3 of the 2012 NFL Draft, ultimately supplanting Michael Vick with the rookie quarterback later in the season.

If the Chiefs find a way to bring in Foles, retain Dwayne Bowe and use their No. 1 pick in April for another valuable commodity like Luke Joeckel, we might actually see the beginning of a decent offensive display. Kansas City has plenty of work ahead this offseason.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:25 AM   #211
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Minus top 2 picks Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick, Reid's QBs have more INTs than TDs.
Cherry picking.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:30 AM   #212
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:50 AM   #213
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Minus top 2 picks Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick, Reid's QBs have more INTs than TDs.
Favre, Brunell, and Hasselbeck all were coached by Reid in Green Bay. If you include them, his record with qbs is pretty damn good. If you're just talking Philly than I'd tend to agree with you
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:49 AM   #214
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I don't think you can really just make McNabb an exception when he played 80% of Reid's tenure in Philly. That's kind of dumb. That'd be like saying Patriots QBs in the 21st century have been mediocre other than Tom Brady.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:58 AM   #215
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I don't think you can really just make McNabb an exception when he played 80% of Reid's tenure in Philly. That's kind of dumb. That'd be like saying Patriots QBs in the 21st century have been mediocre other than Tom Brady.
McNabb was the #2 overall pick, so you absolutely CAN make him an exception.

The Tom Brady example is PERFECT.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:59 AM   #216
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Favre, Brunell, and Hasselbeck all were coached by Reid in Green Bay. If you include them, his record with qbs is pretty damn good. If you're just talking Philly than I'd tend to agree with you
Hasselbeck blossomed in SEATTLE under Mike Holmgren, who just happened to be the coach in Green Bay at the time all 3 of those guys were there.

It's just as plausible that those 3 guys were Holmgren, not Reid.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:59 AM   #217
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Cherry picking.
Of course. Because the only OBJECTIVE measure of Reid's "guru status" doesn't give anyone a warm fuzzy.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:03 AM   #218
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Minus top 2 picks Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick, Reid's QBs have more INTs than TDs.
Mostly due to McNabb being out every other year and Vick being a turnover machine last year...
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:26 AM   #219
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Mostly due to McNabb being out every other year and Vick being a turnover machine last year...
Minus Vick. If you take OUT last year's "turnover machine", Reid's QBs have more INTs than TDs.
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Minus top 2 picks Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick, Reid's QBs have more INTs than TDs.
And included in that sample is Jeff Garcia, who had a LEGITIMATELY good season starting for the Eagles.

Goes to show that you can be a wizard, but when you're working with AJ Feeley, Kevin Kolb, and Nick Foles, the magic gets lost easily
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And included in that sample is Jeff Garcia, who had a LEGITIMATELY good season starting for the Eagles.

Goes to show that you can be a wizard, but when you're working with AJ Feeley, Kevin Kolb, and Nick Foles, the magic gets lost easily
I've said it over and over, I think Andy Reid is a GREAT coach. I legitimately believe that.

But I don't believe he's got the Midas touch with QBs. He's been great with talented QBs, first round guys like McNabb and Vick. Without the high draft picks, he's been mediocre to poor.
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