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Old 02-27-2013, 07:47 PM  
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The "TRADE" Analyzed
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:12 PM   #16
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If we'd drafted Geno, chances are we'd be in for a couple more crappy seasons at a minimum, and even then he might not pan out. With Alex, we're able to at least be a fun team to watch for a couple years, and he might even surprise us and be good enough for us to truly compete in the playoffs.
Yay, true fans.

Draft a QB in the 1st? OH NO IT RISKY!
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:12 PM   #17
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The problem Daface isn't in bringing in a vet. Its PISSING away a 34 overall pick. Sweet hell the amount of talent that will be there. It's about giving away MORE than that. Its about that probably meaning no QB in this draft and giving Smith time. You don't shit away picks and then give the guy 16 games to turn shit around.
What Vet were you gonna bring in that would be better than Smith?
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:13 PM   #18
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FYI there is not a god damn thing that is fun about watching Alex Smith check the ****ing ball down.

That's what he is. A checkdown king.

God dammit.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:13 PM   #19
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I'll tell this story in the form of a parable:

There once were two college quarterbacks. Both of them were really good, but most people felt that both of them had a ways to go before they would be ready to play in the NFL. Even so, there was a team that had the #1 pick that desperately needed a quarterback, so one of the players was taken at #1. Hooray!

That player went to a team that was really bad. He was immediately thrown into the QB position because the team had no other choice. He had a horrible first few seasons as he learned on the job and was constantly running for his life behind an offensive line that couldn't protect him. It took years for him to finally relax and be able to fill the role at even a mediocre level. Eventually, though, he started to live up to his potential and even almost took a team to a Super Bowl.

The other player dropped in the draft and almost didn't even get taken in the first round. He ended up going to a team that had a starting quarterback, but he was able to learn without having to run for his life. Eventually, though, he got his chance, and thrived. He won a Super Bowl and got close a couple other times.

Geno Smith is going to end up in one of the two situations above. If he came here, he'd be in the former. Could he succeed? It's possible, but unlikely given how much he has to learn. At a minimum, it would likely take at least a few seasons before he's ready.

If we'd drafted Geno, chances are we'd be in for a couple more crappy seasons at a minimum, and even then he might not pan out. With Alex, we're able to at least be a fun team to watch for a couple years, and he might even surprise us and be good enough for us to truly compete in the playoffs. Hopefully, we'll still draft someone this year and can begin grooming him to take over in a few years. Regardless, I hope to at least be able to stomach watching games this year.

Alex isn't exciting, and I'm not a huge fan of how much we gave up to get him, but we HAD to bring in a vet of some sort this year. Expecting to start and be successful this year is just wishful thinking. Alex was the best vet QB available, so that makes it a decent (if not exciting) move.


You may now proceed to tell me all about how much of an idiot I am.
That simply isn't true anymore. Andy Dalton went to a much worse team, with an OC from the Arena league and went to the playoffs 2X in the AFCN.

FFS, Christian Ponder made the playoffs this year and that Vikings roster is a joke.
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:13 PM   #20
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For the people who say its not a terrible trade, how do you justify it? What about Alex Smith makes this a good trade?
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:14 PM   #21
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Matt Schaub was traded for 2 #2 picks . I'd rather have Alex Smith !
Dude Matt Schaub has Andre freaking Johnson to throw to...Smith would have loved to have a receiver like that.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:14 PM   #22
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It's more than that. It's also wasting the #1 pick on an OT when we already have an OT.
I didn't want to go any further. I can't handle it.

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What Vet were you gonna bring in that would be better than Smith?
Did you read my post, at all?
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:15 PM   #23
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The Chiefs again settle for known mediocrity over the unknown chance that a guy could become Aaron Rodgers. He might be Tim Couch though to it's too scary.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:16 PM   #24
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Dude Matt Schaub has Andre freaking Johnson to throw to...Smith would have loved to have a receiver like that.
And what the hell does that have to do with anything in the world ?
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:16 PM   #25
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The problem Daface isn't in bringing in a vet. Its PISSING away a 34 overall pick. Sweet hell the amount of talent that will be there. It's about giving away MORE than that. Its about that probably meaning no QB in this draft and giving Smith time. You don't shit away picks and then give the guy 16 games to turn shit around.
So just to make sure, it's OK to reach for a QB if it's a rookie with a lot of unknowns, but it's blasphemy to reach for a QB when it's a known (albeit unexciting) commodity? QB's are worth more than any other player on the field, so while it seems like the picks are too high (and I generally agree), it's the way it goes. Cutler was worth two firsts and a third. Palmer was worth two firsts. Alex is apparently worth two seconds.
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Alex Smith was almost cut
The tried to replace Alex Smith with Peyton Manning
Alex Smith was benched

He is not worth two 2nd round picks, especially not high ones.

Maybe a single 3rd rouner or a high 4th rounder.


The reports better be wrong. We better be exchanging 2nd round picks this year and then a compensatory pick next year. Still too much but at least it won't make me puke.
I hope they are not giving that much up too. I wouldn't have an issue if it was a third round pick even though I'm not a big fan of Alex Smith. I don't know if this http://www.profootballcentral.com/20...or-alex-smith/ is true but it makes me think the compensation reported is correct.
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That simply isn't true anymore. Andy Dalton went to a much worse team, with an OC from the Arena league and went to the playoffs 2X in the AFCN.

FFS, Christian Ponder made the playoffs this year and that Vikings roster is a joke.
So our expectations of Geno are Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder? Yikes.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:20 PM   #28
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So our expectations of Geno are Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder? Yikes.
Yeah, no kidding. Give me Alex Smith.
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Why is it better to trade for a guy who sucks, rather than draft a guy that may or may not suck? When did upside get so scary?
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