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Old 02-28-2013, 11:21 AM  
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He's not Cassel, he's Deberg.
at least, I'd say that's his floor. Either way, it's not good enough to go the distance, which is what we're all pissed about, right?

I assume that Reid thinks he can take Smith to the next level, and perhaps he can. Let's be really clear about the 9'er offense: Kaepernick flourishes for a few physical reasons, and as a centerpiece of the read-option. Smith, being a traditional pocket passer, just ran the normal NFL style offense there. Yes, they ran the ball and played defense-they still do that with Kaepernick. Yes he gets more yardage as the defense has to play him differently. He's also a freak athlete and runs for a lot of yards.

My point is that it's possible Reid CAN get more production out of Smith. It also seems that Reid and Dorsey are unimpressed with Geno and the rest of the possible first round crew. Maybe not though. Maybe they've got a trade down plan in place and have possible partners in line.

The thing that bothers me the most is if they really did give up a #2 and not just swap #2's then we lose the opportunity for a Nassib/Emanuel/Dysert type project. Possibly even a shot at Barkley, who might fall due to the injury.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:51 PM   #91
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Do you want to name some other guys that went middle of the 1st round? Rodgers, Ben, and Flacco come to mind off the bat. Better not draft those guys 1st! That's not value!
Who wants to win?

All I care about is high grades from Mel Kiper after the draft!
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:51 PM   #92
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Oh, and less time I checked, you do have to get into playoffs to win the thing. The more times you get in, the likelihood of winning rises.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:52 PM   #93
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I can't believe a Chief fan actually utter those words.
I absolutely can. The average Chiefs fan wants to hope they can win. The average fanatic, like us, want to see us build a roster that we know can win.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:52 PM   #94
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What is the commonality between all of those QBs?

1) They were all drafted and developed by the team they won a SB with
2) They never lost their job to ineffectiveness or injury.

Alex Smith fits which of those parameters?
Drew Brees...You can't even get your facts right there.
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Drew Brees...You can't even get your facts right there.
Good point.

That said, is Brees the rule or the exception? Which are you more comfortable betting?
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Good point.

That said, is Brees the rule or the exception? Which are you more comfortable betting?
I am just saying there are a lot of ways to get to the promised land. Most of you guys thought G Smith was the way. I didn't and still do not. A. Smith at this point is a better choice.

Draft another QB to sit behind him. Fine. I am a T. Wilson fan. But not to start right away.

The Lucks of the world are what we all wanted. Unfortunately, there just isn't one in this draft.

And yes, I would bet on A. Smith over G Smith. Every time.
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I am just saying there are a lot of ways to get to the promised land. Most of you guys thought G Smith was the way. I didn't and still do not. A. Smith at this point is a better choice.

Draft another QB to sit behind him. Fine. I am a T. Wilson fan. But not to start right away.

The Lucks of the world are what we all wanted. Unfortunately, there just isn't one in this draft.

And yes, I would bet on A. Smith over G Smith. Every time.
Do you believe that Alex Smith can win a SB for the Chiefs?
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I am just saying there are a lot of ways to get to the promised land. Most of you guys thought G Smith was the way. I didn't and still do not. A. Smith at this point is a better choice.

Draft another QB to sit behind him. Fine. I am a T. Wilson fan. But not to start right away.

The Lucks of the world are what we all wanted. Unfortunately, there just isn't one in this draft.

And yes, I would bet on A. Smith over G Smith. Every time.
Let's say that Geno Smith isn't the guy. Is Alex Smith a better option than drafting and developing a first round QB?
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Do you believe that Alex Smith can win a SB for the Chiefs?
Yes. Of course I do.
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Let's say that Geno Smith isn't the guy. Is Alex Smith a better option than drafting and developing a first round QB?
No. I would rather develop one too...more likely to lead to a longer dynasty. Doesn't exist in this draft however.
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Yes. Of course I do.
What has Alex Smith done to make you think that way?

His best year was this past season and he got benched.
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What has Alex Smith done to make you think that way?

His best year was this past season and he got benched.
He was excellent in his starts and lost his job due to injury...No Kap on the squad and SF still gets to the SB after he comes back.
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He was excellent in his starts and lost his job due to injury...No Kap on the squad and SF still gets to the SB after he comes back.
If he was so excellent, then why didn't he get his job back after the injury? That was a big deal at the time...
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Alex Smith successfully lead his team to the SB
Really? In what dimension? On what planet....?

Last I checked he choked in the championship game on 3rd downs all game....

Please tell me more of this SB
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