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Old 02-28-2013, 09:29 AM  
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I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

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The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:31 PM   #316
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If Alex Smith went to Buffalo would anybody have run to Vegas to put money down on the Bills making the playoffs or Super Bowl? How about Arizona?

I bet not, because he isn't anything special at all. You would have said, "Smith isn't good enough to get the Bills over the hump, I can't believe that sad sack organization gave up an early 2nd and an additional 2/3. When will they learn?"
Buffalo did t have six Pro Bowlers. Buffalo doesn't have Jamaal Charles or Tamba Hali or Justin Houston or Eric Berry.

Your analogy sucks.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:32 PM   #317
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This, by a large margin, is the best way to explain to a True Fan, or anyone else, why trading for Alex Smith is such a crappy idea.

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:33 PM   #318
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Alex Smith may end up sucking, but in NO WAY is he gonna suck at Cassel/Quinn levels of suckage. You don't go 2-14 with 5 or 6 Pro Bowlers if you have even a halfway decent QB on the roster. This is a clear upgrade over last year's QB play.

Tombstone, I feel your concern.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:34 PM   #319
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:34 PM   #320
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:34 PM   #321
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Seriously? You'll be happy if he's Trent Green? How many playoff wins did that get us again?

I'm tired of people acting like Trent was some great QB. He was serviceable. He wasn't a franchise QB and he was never going to be 'great'.
Bullshit. Pure ****ing bullshit.

If the 2002-2005 Chiefs had even a top 15 defense, they would have at least a playoff win.

Trent was NOT the problem. Not "awesome".
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:35 PM   #322
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Bullshit. Pure ****ing bullshit.

If the 2002-2005 had even a top 15 defense, the Chiefs would have at least a playoff win.

Trent was NOT the problem. Not "awesome".
Wasn't the solution either. Cassel was a better clutch QB, and Green was poor in the RZ.
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I'm not even mad that we aren't getting Geno Smith. I don't feel like there were any franchise QB's in this draft. But I'm pissed that we decide to invest the same time with Alex Smith that we did with Matt Cassel just to find out we're getting exactly what everyone thought we were getting. An average QB.

Even though I didn't feel there were any franchise QBs, I would've MUCH rather taken the risk on Geno Smith or Matt Barkley rather than wasting a 2nd and a 3rd that could've been used to get more weapons for our rookie QB, and instead trading them for Matt Cassel part 2.
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If any other team picking first gave up two seconds for Smith you guys would laugh your ass off at their ineptitude.
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Alex Smith may end up sucking, but in NO WAY is he gonna suck at Cassel/Quinn levels of suckage. You don't go 2-14 with 5 or 6 Pro Bowlers if you have even a halfway decent QB on the roster. This is a clear upgrade over last year's QB play.

Tombstone, I feel your concern.
God damn. Don't you dare come on this board and predict success. Haven't you read, we are doomed for failure.
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Wasn't the solution either. Cassel was a better clutch QB, and Green was poor in the RZ.
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Kaepernick was drafted because Harbaugh knew Smith wasn't the QB to lead him to a Superbowl victory.
Kaepernick was drafted because Jim Harbaugh came from the college game and saw the benefit of a dual threat QB.

If Harbaugh really felt like replacing Alex Smith was a necessity, he would have chosen him in the first round of 2011, not traded up for him.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:42 PM   #328
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Wasn't the solution either. Cassel was a better clutch QB, and Green was poor in the RZ.
Come on. The Chiefs were on the Top Five offensively from 2002-2005. The offense and Trent Green were hardly the problem.

If you'd like to place blame, place it on the fact the Carl Peterson failed to provide Green and the Chiefs with young perimeter weapons.

Morton and Kennison were hardly elite. It's not like he had Roddy White and Julio Jones.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:43 PM   #329
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Come on. The Chiefs were on the Top Five offensively from 2002-2005. The offense and Trent Green were hardly the problem.

If you'd like to place blame, place it on the fact the Carl Peterson failed to provide Green and the Chiefs with young perimeter weapons.

Morton and Kennison were hardly elite.
There will be no ill talk of Morton here, despite how shitty his MMA career was.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:44 PM   #330
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If you listen to the scouts, Reid, Dorsey, etc., it simply doesn't seem that the odds are 50/50 to boom/bust with 2013's QB offerings. If it's anything like the 2010 class, the odds would be more like 1/99. Them are not good odds.

Hey, don't blame Reid/Dorsey for being 2-14 and getting the #1 pick this particularly horrid year. THEY didn't do that, ***** did.

I think it's WAY too early to toss Reid/Dorsey into the "gutless" category. They had NOTHING at QB, and this year's QB class is likely really poor. They had to do something, and getting Alex Smith must've appeared to them to be a good place to start. Heck, you gave ***** 4 years of total and complete failure; surely you can muster a couple of years before hanging Reid/Dorsey out to dry.
listen, just shut up already. Alex Smith is trash. What the kc fans are sick as hell about is that Reid/Dorsey gave up essentially a first round pick for this guy when what Reid/Dorsey could have done is brought in a FA QB like Matt Moore and be just as good.

Don't be moron. For **** sake.
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