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Old 03-09-2013, 10:12 PM  
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Here's something I didn't expect: remember Colin Brown?

Hilariously terrible 5th round selection by Scott ***** in the famed horrific 2009 draft class?

Something like the 57th rated tackle that year?

He just got a two-year extension with the Buffalo Bills, who play him at guard but really like him at center:

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Best fit as a center (he can also play guard and even tackle), Brown was placed on the injured reserve back in October with hamstring injury, as it seemed like every Bills offensive lineman was going down with some sort of an ailment. Brown looked solid in the lone game he played this season, as he was thrust into the starting line-up at right guard in the blowout loss against the San Francisco 49ers. Brown, who filled in for Kraig Urbik (out with a high-ankle sprain), made a strong impact during his time in the game as both a run blocker and pass protector.

Generally well-liked by the fans, Colin Brown was expected to get roughly $1.3 million in restricted free agency on a one-year tender, and instead he will be getting a little bit over $1.4 million for two seasons. Still, Brown’s spot on the Buffalo Bills 2013 53-man roster is far from guaranteed, but he should be able to make it through training camp and the preseason with a spot on the roster. Brown, again, showed some promise against the 49ers and has the kind of versatility that makes him a valuable backup offensive lineman in the NFL.
The NFL, man. You never know.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:12 AM   #46
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When you can get such a haul as a Right Tackle for going 2-14, you just HAVE to jump on that shit.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:23 AM   #47
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The 2009 draft class:

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU -- still a solid-ish starter for the Chiefs

2. traded for QB Matt Cassel, who single-handedly got ***** fired

3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue -- played in the Arena Football League for the Utah Blaze last year, holy shit what a terrible pick.

4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State -- been out of professional football since the Chiefs cut him last summer

5. OT Colin Brown, Chiefs -- see OP

6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State -- turned into a pretty good reserve DB eventually, played reserve safety for the Dolphins last year

7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State -- spent last season deep on the Redskins depth chart (his fifth team)

7. TE Jake O'Connell, Miami (OH) -- still with the Chiefs
The worst draft class in Chiefs history? Would be hard to argue against that.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:31 AM   #48
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:41 AM   #49
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The 2009 draft class:

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU -- still a solid-ish starter for the Chiefs

2. traded for QB Matt Cassel, who single-handedly got ***** fired

3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue -- played in the Arena Football League for the Utah Blaze last year, holy shit what a terrible pick.

4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State -- been out of professional football since the Chiefs cut him last summer

5. OT Colin Brown, Chiefs -- see OP

6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State -- turned into a pretty good reserve DB eventually, played reserve safety for the Dolphins last year

7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State -- spent last season deep on the Redskins depth chart (his fifth team)

7. TE Jake O'Connell, Miami (OH) -- still with the Chiefs
"On June 24, 2009, ESPN.com announced its All-Decade Moments naming Scott ***** Personnel Man of the Decade. "No one in the league does a better job of scouting their own team, and [at the Patriots] ***** was orchestrating all of that."

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Old 03-10-2013, 11:10 AM   #50
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Crazy, he's still fighting for a roster spot. Man, you never know... sometimes guys are exactly the same. That's weirding me out and shit. Mind = blown.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:39 AM   #51
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Yeah, I forgot Succop.

And we landed Belcher as a UDFA.

Really, you're looking at a good starter, a consistent kicker, a reserve TE, a reserve OL, a trade for a 5th round pick (which became Cameron Sheffield, I think?), and a solid three year starter at ILB (could have been more if he hadn't... yeah). Plus a second round pick for three-plus years of a subpar starting QB.

It wasn't a good draft, but calling it the worst ever is silly. It's probably not even the worst Chiefs draft ever.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:54 AM   #52
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Good draft.

2010

Eric Berry -- Pro Bowler

Dexter McCluster -- some will disagree but he's a solid contributor

Javier Arenas -- starting-caliber corner, one of the league's best punt returners

Jon Asamoah -- starting guard

Tony Moeaki -- starting tight end, really damn good when he's not an injured bitch

Kendrick Lewis -- starting safety

Cameron Sheffield -- injury really stalled any chance he had
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:56 AM   #53
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Javier Arenas is not a starting caliber corner. JFC.

McCluster and Moeaki are wastes of space too, who need to be replaced.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:57 AM   #54
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2011

Johnathan Baldwin -- starting WR

Rodney Hudson -- starting C

Justing Houston -- Pro Bowler

Allen Bailey -- situational DE

Jalil Brown -- reserve CB

Ricky Stanzi -- third stringer, on verge of getting cut, but will almost certainly land somewhere

Gabe Miller -- cut in 2011, bounced around, currently a reserve for the Bears

Jerrell Powe -- backup NT

Shane Bannon -- shit FB, cut immediately, out of NFL
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:59 AM   #55
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All things considered, our drafts under Pioli were as strong as anybody's in the league. I'd say we were a Top 8 drafting team in Pioli's years. That darts up to the Top 4 or 5 when you include Herm's final year.

It was that ****ing QB position that he just never fixed. Ever.
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All things considered, our drafts under ***** were as strong as anybody's in the league. .
Apart from the total lack of playmakers.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:02 PM   #57
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The big question mark, still:

2012

Dontari Poe -- starting NT

Jeff Allen -- starting guard

Donald Stephenson -- swing tackle, maybe a starter at RT

Devon Wylie -- reserve WR

DeQuan Menzie -- reserve CB/S

Cyrus Gray -- reserve RB

Jerome Long -- placed on practice squad, scooped up by another team

Junior Hemingway -- bobbed on and off the 2012 roster, currently out of the NFL
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:10 PM   #58
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Apart from the total lack of playmakers.
Oh come on now. ***** completely shit the bed at QB. Aside form that, he was an adequate GM:



This is the team he assembled if it were to start today. All the grey are players he drafted. The green are the players he extended. Blue is for the player he traded for (Cassel) and orange is for the franchise-tag-extended Bowe.

It's not like Andy Reid inherited the 2008 Chiefs. That team was a cluster****.

Of course, that's not to defend Pioli's firing. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Adequate GMs don't blow picks on Arenas, McCluster, Baldwin, Bailey, who are all utterly ****ing worthless, and probably a couple more garbage picks from 2012.

And throw in 2009 as a disaster.

Justin Houston and Eric Berry are good players. 0 other playmakers. ZERO. In four drafts. Inexcusable.
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