Installing a passenger side mirror?

[Hootie]

some dipshit kicked/punched my side mirror off and I had to go to ebay to buy a replacement...

I am not savvy enough (I'm a dipshit) to install it myself and I am getting a little bit of work done tomorrow at an auto shop and I'm going to bring the mirror with me and ask them to install it for me...

how much should I be expecting them to charge me for that labor since I have already bought the part?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I take time off.
People have to wait. I have a family and refuse to kill myself to fix cars. I'm every bit as busy and normally BUSIER than I want to be

I believe you are a failure in business.I don't believe a word you say about it. How's that?
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That didn't answer my question.

Does running two profitable businesses and selling one for a profit constitute a failure?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I know nothing about Exoter, never even saw his name before this thread, but just because someone's business has failed does not mean they are not a good person, qualified, or unethical.

I know many, many good contractors that have closed up due to various reasons, many beyond their immediate control. Some simply because they were too nice and didn't charge enough, or didn't understand that there is a much higher cost to keep the doors open that the actual costs of work.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

The labor guide is just that, a guide. It is not the Bible. Plenty of shops change labor rates on certain jobs, and some change it on all jobs. I choose to stick to it as closely as possible.
I can tell you that many times Mitchell will say 6 hours and All Data will say 8. Is one guy being dishonest because he uses All Data?

And that's exactly what I'm getting at.

If I choose a labor guide that is 10% below industry average, and then raise my labor hours by 10% because I like the functionality of that software more, does that make me unethical? Despite the top 2/3rds of the industry average softwares charging you more than my 10%?

[loochy]

Summary:

Hootie is a bad person.
Extorter is a bad person.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

The labor guide is just that, a guide. It is not the Bible. Plenty of shops change labor rates on certain jobs, and some change it on all jobs. I choose to stick to it as closely as possible.
I can tell you that many times Mitchell will say 6 hours and All Data will say 8. Is one guy being dishonest because he uses All Data?

apparently...

I think SAUTO is clouded by his prior judgement of the OP.

Not sure what Saul's issue is unless it is the ethics of billing as it relates to the legal profession. Double-billing is a rampant (and unethical) practice, so he may see this as similar, even though it's not at all.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by loochy

Summary:

Hootie is a bad person.
Extorter is a bad person.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by loochy

Summary:

Hootie is a bad person.
Extorter is a bad person.

by extrapolation, are you saying Hootie= Extorter?

[SAUTO]

Lol this guy has owned two businesses and closed the first went to school opened another then was too good and sold it because he worked too hard and was too busy but wanted to make more money and be able to do whatever he WANTS WHILE WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. lol how does that happen with a boss.

But yet now is going to open another business because he just wants to.

Dude I hope your don't think we are all not stupid enough to buy the bullshit you are selling.


Baffle em with bullshit.

That's why I don't work in a dealership anymore. They liked to baffle people with bullshit, you fit right in there
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[loochy]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

by extrapolation, are you saying Hootie= Extorter?

They can't be because they are trying to rip each other off

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

apparently...

I think SAUTO is clouded by his prior judgement of the OP.

Not sure what Saul's issue is unless it is the ethics of billing as it relates to the legal profession. Double-billing is a rampant (and unethical) practice, so he may see this as similar, even though it's not at all.

I call it how I see it.

This is how it all happened.

I posted what not to do in a thread
Sauto posted in it
I corrected him
He got mad and argued that I was being too cautious and specific
I argued that precision and caution matter when working on something that could cause a loss of life.
Sauto got on my case
Saul backed Sauto up
I got on Sauto's case for making claims he couldn't prove
Saul backed Sauto up
Sauto never backed claims up
this thread

Saul isn't on my case for any legal or unethical practice reason, he's on my case because his buddy Sauto is here, that's that.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

by extrapolation, are you saying Hootie= Extorter?

No, I"m supposed to be some other guy's multi, I can't remember the name at the moment.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Lol this guy has owned two businesses and closed the first went to school opened another then was too good and sold it because he worked too hard and was too busy but wanted to make more money and be able to do whatever he WANTS WHILE WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. lol how does that happen with a boss.

But yet now is going to open another business because he just wants to.

Dude I hope your don't think we are all not stupid enough to buy the bullshit you are selling.


Baffle em with bullshit.

That's why I don't work in a dealership anymore. They liked to baffle people with bullshit, you fit right in there
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Straight from the horses mouth, I was successful, furthered my education, became more successful, want to create YET another business, and somehow I'm a business failure while running two profitable businesses, going to school, and selling the other to take a higher paying job, which is WHY I WENT TO SCHOOL IN THE FIRST PLACE, and how he faults me?


Sauto, You're really smart.

(Probably the first time he's been accused of that one)

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

The labor guide is just that, a guide. It is not the Bible. Plenty of shops change labor rates on certain jobs, and some change it on all jobs. I choose to stick to it as closely as possible.
I can tell you that many times Mitchell will say 6 hours and All Data will say 8. Is one guy being dishonest because he uses All Data?

If that's the book you go by? Nope.

But to artificially inflate times just because is wrong IMO.

Obviously you feel the same or you wouldn't have asked where the gouge button was lol
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[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

If that's the book you go by? Nope.

But to artificially inflate times just because is wrong IMO.

Obviously you feel the same or you wouldn't have asked where the gouge button was lol
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Yet he knows that each piece of software has a different book time, and who is to say he hasn't used both or used one for a more "accurate" *higher paying* book time?

Nobody, that comes down to honesty.

Its one thing to use the highest book software, and adjust it by 10%, its another to use one of the lowest due to functionality, and adjust by 10%, keeping it lower than 2/3rds of the book times out there still.

Call me a bad man, because I'm going to price rape you at every corner!

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

I call it how I see it.

This is how it all happened.

I posted what not to do in a thread
Sauto posted in it
I corrected him
He got mad and argued that I was being too cautious and specific
I argued that precision and caution matter when working on something that could cause a loss of life.
Sauto got on my case
Saul backed Sauto up
I got on Sauto's case for making claims he couldn't prove
Saul backed Sauto up
Sauto never backed claims up
this thread

Saul isn't on my case for any legal or unethical practice reason, he's on my case because his buddy Sauto is here, that's that.

Saul and I aren't "buddies" .

I can back up everything I say, just don't see the need for someone like you lol. And you are the one who said 1/8" on a brake line is critical
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[notorious]

sigh.