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**BigRedChief** · 04:02 PM

I'm finding this constant negativity tiresome. We have sucked for years. We were an embarrassment. A big ****ing joke. I'm done with the negativity.

I wanted Geno. I think we overpaid for Smith. I'm scratching my head over some of their moves.

Reid and Dorsey obviously have a plan. For crissakes, Reid watched every down of every player for the whole ****ing year before he even met with Clark. I'm going to give them AT LEAST a half a season before I start calling them dumb-asses and screaming for their head.

I don't think I'm accepting mediocrity by choosing to not scream and yell and be totally pissed off by the moves so far. If you think so, you are entitled to you opinion.

I was an early and financial supporter of SOC. Season ticket holder for years. I think anyone would label me a hard core Chiefs fan. Just like most of the posters on this board. We deserve better than we have been given by our team. I will be a Chiefs fan until I become worm food. Lifes too short to go around pissed all the time. I did enough of that the last few years.

I'm going to chose to hope that Reid and Dorseys plan is sound and will result in the return of winning football and our first playoff win since the Montana era. Who's with me?

DTLB58 · 03-14-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Someone said this on twitter today. Made alot of sense.

"Game is all about the QB. Get one, protect one, get to one."

We'll like it or not, we've got one who our FO thinks is pretty good. We need to either get someone to protect him, or get someone who can get to the other ones.

It's the old Bill Walsh way of winning.

3 things. QB, LT and a Pass rusher that can get to the opposing teams QB in the 4th Quarter!

Question: What happen to Allen Bailey? I remember this guy coming on real strong the second half of 2011 and then last season, nothing. With all the talk of another pass rusher I would think this guy could be a candidate.

O.city · 03-14-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I would prefer they sign a guy to play right tackle or choose someone fro the current roster (Allen or Stephenson).

But if they DO choose a tackle, the only way I can personally justify it is that they'd be spending about $4.5 million per year on a good right tackle in free agency, which is approximately what they'd be spending if they choose a right tackle at 1.1.

Reid has stated how badly he wants bookends. Maybe they do view Stephenson or Allen as that, dunno.

But if they think Fisher could be an all pro at RT and Albert an all pro at LT, I see the point there.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-14-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

He jumps on the first dick that moves... disregard any football post he has.

Not true, I jumped on your wife's pussy last night; does that count?
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keg in kc · 03-14-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Out of curiosity, what other FA QB were you hoping for?

Honestly? I didn't even think about it. It was obvious for weeks Alex Smith was their guy, so why bother...

As far as available names, I'd rather have Fitzpatrick for free than Smith for the price we paid. Jason Campbell, too, maybe.

O.city · 03-14-2013, 10:19 PM

Look at the 9ers offense once Kaep took over. Yeah, it was alot more dynamic, but **** me, Kaep is a stud. It's not like it was a slap dick took over there.

Even with that, they weren't a total air it out team. They basically were a 90's Marty team with a stud at QB, but they are a physical run the football defensive team.

**BossChief** · 03-14-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

You discount a pick a round when it's for the next year, so using your logic, the appropriate calculation would be 560 + 190 (mid third rounder) 750 (about pick #23 or 24).

Even then, you're assuming that Alex Smith meets all of the conditions to turn the pick into a #2 next year. If that happens, we traded the equivalent of a late first rounder for a QB that exceeded expectations.

If he doesn't (which is what a lot of people apparently expect), then it's worth 560 + 70 (mid fourth rounder) = 630 (about pick #29 or 30).

Any way we slice it, we traded the equivalent of a mid to late first for Alex Smith and it sure would be nice if it works out.

It's been a long time since Chiefs football was actually fun to watch.

O.city · 03-14-2013, 10:20 PM

Thing wiht the price we paid, if he turns out to be a top 10 QB in the NFL, it doesn't matter. Especially if we are able to trade down, which we will be for something, and recoup some picks.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-14-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Any way we slice it, we traded the equivalent of a mid to late first for Alex Smith and it sure would be nice if it works out.

It's been a long time since Chiefs football was actually fun to watch.

aMEN..

keg in kc · 03-14-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Austin's a pure slot guy, Avery isn't.

A little testy tonight?

Actually yes, a little testy, but not about anything here. Work stuff.

Avery could end up being a good signing if he can continue to be healthy. Potentially the best #2 we've had here in a very long time.

'course we don't have anybody who can get him the ball down the field, so maybe he should be in the slot.

DTLB58 · 03-14-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Floyd, Richardson and Jordan would have more of an immediate impact than any second or third round pick.

And if the Chiefs drafted Patterson, they'd have a logjam at WR, especially since they just resigned Bowe and signed Avery to a three year deal.

If they take a WR, it should be Tavon Austin.

I'd love him for ST but I'm not to thrilled with a 5'8" guy being one of my star WR's in the NFL. It can happen. I think Welker and Amendola are both within a few inches of that. But it will take a special player and a coaching staff to really commit to get the player in the right positions to make him successful.

I just am leery after Dante Hall and McCluster experiments at WR.

Discuss Thrower · 03-14-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Alex Smith is alot better than he's getting credit for. Put him with Reid and he actually might end up being a top 12ish QB or higher.

Obviously Clark sees something in him.

FYP

O.city · 03-14-2013, 10:24 PM

For better or worse, Reid is gonna have Smith throwing the ball down the field.

philfree · 03-14-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Look at the 9ers offense once Kaep took over. Yeah, it was alot more dynamic, but **** me, Kaep is a stud. It's not like it was a slap dick took over there.

Even with that, they weren't a total air it out team. They basically were a 90's Marty team with a stud at QB, but they are a physical run the football defensive team.

They also hit the Ds with a new wrinkle that really played to his strength of running with the ball.

DTLB58 · 03-14-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Thank you fantasy football coach. Go **** yourself.
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Don't play, but thanks anyways.

keg in kc · 03-14-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

I'd love him for ST but I'm not to thrilled with a 5'8" guy being one of my star WR's in the NFL. It can happen. I think Welker and Amendola are both within a few inches of that. But it will take a special player and a coaching staff to really commit to get the player in the right positions to make him successful.

I just am leery after Dante Hall and McCluster experiments at WR.

He's not Hall or McCluster. They were shifty guys with no real top-end speed (although Hall had much more than McCluster) and no vision at all. Austin has the pure speed to run away from corners. He's also very good at finding seams in defenses. I think he's going to be a good one.

I think Steadman Bailey's going to be a star, too.

View Poll Results: Can you chose to hope Reid/Dorsey have a sound plan?
They seems to have a good plan	96	29.09%
Benefit of doubt until proven otherwise	158	47.88%
Those guys have proven to be failures	2	0.61%
Their moves so far cause me great concern that they are inept	46	13.94%
Screw this team	24	7.27%
Gaz says WTF am I?	4	1.21%
Voters: 330. You may not vote on this poll

03-14-2013, 03:56 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $2859627 VARSITY	The constant negativity is tiresome. Who is ready to join me and move on? I'm finding this constant negativity tiresome. We have sucked for years. We were an embarrassment. A big **ing joke. I'm done with the negativity. I wanted Geno. I think we overpaid for Smith. I'm scratching my head over some of their moves. Reid and Dorsey obviously have a plan. For crissakes, Reid watched every down of every player for the whole *ing year before he even met with Clark. I'm going to give them AT LEAST a half a season before I start calling them dumb-asses and screaming for their head. I don't think I'm accepting mediocrity by choosing to not scream and yell and be totally pissed off by the moves so far. If you think so, you are entitled to you opinion. I was an early and financial supporter of SOC. Season ticket holder for years. I think anyone would label me a hard core Chiefs fan. Just like most of the posters on this board. We deserve better than we have been given by our team. I will be a Chiefs fan until I become worm food. Lifes too short to go around pissed all the time. I did enough of that the last few years. I'm going to chose to hope that Reid and Dorseys plan is sound and will result in the return of winning football and our first playoff win since the Montana era. Who's with me? Last edited by BigRedChief; 03-14-2013 at 04:02 PM..*
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03-14-2013, 10:19 PM	#380
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	Look at the 9ers offense once Kaep took over. Yeah, it was alot more dynamic, but **** me, Kaep is a stud. It's not like it was a slap dick took over there. Even with that, they weren't a total air it out team. They basically were a 90's Marty team with a stud at QB, but they are a physical run the football defensive team.
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03-14-2013, 10:20 PM	#382
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	Thing wiht the price we paid, if he turns out to be a top 10 QB in the NFL, it doesn't matter. Especially if we are able to trade down, which we will be for something, and recoup some picks.
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03-14-2013, 10:24 PM	#387
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	For better or worse, Reid is gonna have Smith throwing the ball down the field.
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