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So there was basically nothing on offense heading into the 2001 season, in other words, outside of Tony Gonzalez and Will Shields. Absolutely zero. Some of us expected exactly what we got from Trent Green because, until Kennison was picked up, he had no receivers at all, no established running back to start the season, and at best an okay offensive line. Alex Smith has Dwayne Bowe and Donnie Avery starting, which is far better than any tandem of receivers than Green ever had to work with, and he has Dexter McCluster in the slot (whom Reid loves). And there are a variety of receivers to choose from behind them, whether it's speed in Devon Wylie or size in Jon Baldwin. He has Moeaki and Fasano at tight end, who, while they aren't Tony Gonzalez, also aren't a weakness. He has Jamaal Charles at runningback, who's more of a big play threat than any single player Green ever had, and one of the best players in the entire league. And I think it's fair to say that Draughn and Gray are better rotational backs than Mike Cloud and Jermaine Williams. Albert, if they keep him, is a better player than Tait at the time, and if they don't, he'll be replaced with a top-10 pick. The rest of the line is what should be ascending players mostly taken in the first half of the draft over the last few years. Which is at least equivalent to Green's 2001 line, and quite possibly better. So let's not make this out to be something that it isn't. Alex Smith is being handed the keys to a Ferrari. Well, okay, maybe that's an exaggeration. The keys to a Mustang with a lot of extras. Trent Green was asked to drive a Yugo. |
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I think what we could reasonably expect would be Trent Green. But Alex Smith has more upside than Green ever had, so we could get something better.
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Not just offensively, but defensively, there is an ass ton more talent here in 2013 than there was in 01.
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03-24-2013, 07:44 PM | #337 | |
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Wylie won't make it out of camp, so in essence the '13 Chiefs are only a few steps above the '01 Chiefs. They're head and shoulders better at RB, a wash or worse at FB, better at WR1, wash at WR2, "technically" worse at TE, wash at OL, and it's yet to be determined if QB1 is better in '13 than '01.
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Are you saying that it's ok to trade a first round pick for a guy that is easily recognizable as bottom half of the league and to give him 20 million over 2 years? Of course you can't get a REAL quarterback for what we spent...they are worth more than that and it was a trade that EVERYONE sags we gave up too much. Last offseason, nobody wanted to give Alex Smith a real contract for a reason. |
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oh ya. it had nothing to do with the fact Cassel had Randy Moss, Wes Welker & Bowe during those years.
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But we saw what he is with poor coaching and playcalling, even Charles and Bowe last year.
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Second round picks are selections where a team's front office proves their worth in finding players who can find their way into the starting lineup by their second or third seasons and stay in such a position for two or three seasons after that.
If Alex Smith's tenure in KC is that of a carbon copy of Matt Cassel's where he's released by year four, is the trade worth it?
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So? It was a second round pick. It was not a first round pick as was stated. This is a fact. I'm not sure what you are even talking about, or how it relates to my post.
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A second round pick and a third round pick equate to a mid to late first.
The 34th pick is worth 580 draft value points. The 16th pick in the second round is worth 420 points....that equates to 1000 points, which is what the 16th pick in the first round is worth. If we only give up a third next year That's worth 190 points, added to the 580 we give up this year, that's 770 points given up...the equivalent of the 21st pick in the first round. So, yes, we did give up a first round pick worth of draft compensation for Alex Smith. |
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