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Old 04-07-2013, 09:28 AM   #1
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Then the point of the article is false. The spread option will eventually go the way of the 46 defense. You cannot consistently put your QB at risk in the NFL. Just look at the teams in the playoffs. Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers...none of them are ever going to run the spread option. You basically had RGIII, Kaepernick, and Wilson (sort of) and RGIII got hurt. This is typical lazy journalism by ESPN and it is what I have come to expect from the Worldwide Leader in hype.
So, you are basically saying that approximately half the teams in the playoffs were operating out of a spread system (and Brady definitely runs a spread almost all the time - he's not a runner, but it most certainly is a spread type system that they employ in NE these days).

And it's not like there is a singular "system" at this point anyway. Most teams are utilizing variants of numerous systems on both sides of the ball. You'll see cover 2's, 46's, 43's, 34's, etc. out of one team.

It's not three yards and a cloud of dust with the best players on the best teams winning. Teams have been forced to employ various sets in order to counter the innovations that we've seen on both sides of the ball in the past decade.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:45 AM   #2
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So, you are basically saying that approximately half the teams in the playoffs were operating out of a spread system (and Brady definitely runs a spread almost all the time - he's not a runner, but it most certainly is a spread type system that they employ in NE these days).

And it's not like there is a singular "system" at this point anyway. Most teams are utilizing variants of numerous systems on both sides of the ball. You'll see cover 2's, 46's, 43's, 34's, etc. out of one team.

It's not three yards and a cloud of dust with the best players on the best teams winning. Teams have been forced to employ various sets in order to counter the innovations that we've seen on both sides of the ball in the past decade.
There is a difference between a spread option offense and using multiple wide receivers to spread out the defense. There are 12 teams that made the playoffs, and two used the spread option a majority of the time and Seattle used it some, but Wilson is more of a pocket passer that runs when he needs to. Having an upper echelon LT is still one of the most important positions in football and anyone suggesting differently is wrong. LT is definitely more important than CB in today's NFL.

The article even contradicts itself by saying pass rusher is important, but The LT's importance is diminished. Who do they think has the job of blocking these important pass rushers?
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:50 AM   #3
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There is a difference between a spread option offense and using multiple wide receivers to spread out the defense. There are 12 teams that made the playoffs, and two used the spread option a majority of the time and Seattle used it some, but Wilson is more of a pocket passer that runs when he needs to. Having an upper echelon LT is still one of the most important positions in football and anyone suggesting differently is wrong. LT is definitely more important than CB in today's NFL.

The article even contradicts itself by saying pass rusher is important, but The LT's importance is diminished. Who do they think has the job of blocking these important pass rushers?
It also says you need to be good across your whole front 5.

Spread concepts mean a spread out field, more receivers, faster throws, more space. That's why elite o-line isn't as important as elite pass rush, and coverage guys that neutralize the quick passing game.

The league is always changing, many people still see the NFL teams built in the 80's and 90's as how one builds a team today.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #4
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That's why elite o-line isn't as important as elite pass rush
This is a contradictory statement.
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:02 AM   #5
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This is a contradictory statement.
Passes are out faster. That means:
1. You don't block as long
2. You have less time to get to the QB

Lowers requirement for elite blockers, raises the need for elite pass rushers.

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Old 04-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #6
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Passes are out faster. That means:
1. You don't block as long
2. You have less time to get to the QB

Lowers requirement for elite blockers, raises the need for elite pass rushers.

Got it Frankie?
Passes are out faster. That means:
1. Elite pass rushers are going to be less effective.
2. You still need a dominant blind side protector to protect your most valuable asset, your QB on the occasions that the quick pass is not available.

There is a reason everyone has insurance on their cars and homes.

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Old 04-07-2013, 11:26 AM   #7
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Passes are out faster. That means:
1. Elite pass rushers are going to be less effective.
2. You still need a dominant blind side protector to protect your most valuable asset, your QB on the occasions that the quick pass is not available.

There is a reason everyone has insurance on their cars and homes.

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Did you read the whole section about needing to be strong in all 5 positions up front?

This article doesn't claim that o-line isn't important, it says that the LT is no longer the building block.

An elite LT doesn't do shit if they are rushing you from the right side of your line....
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:12 AM   #8
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Passes are out faster. That means:
1. You don't block as long
2. You have less time to get to the QB
3. NFL secretly allowing LT's to hold that mutha ****a like a mutha ****a
Lowers requirement for elite blockers, raises the need for elite pass rushers.

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FYP cuzz it's ALL ABOUT THA QB NOW and Goody Goodell is as crooked as they come
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