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04-19-2013, 04:16 PM | #2 |
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I'd say coaching, offensive philsophies/scheme, QB play, and play design (ties into OPhil) are all factors.
Additionally, different learning curves, the quality of the teachers the player has at his position, how much they dedicate themselves both on and off the field, and their intelligence are all factors that play a crucial role. Nearly all of the 2nd paragraph's qualities are impossible for a fan to know sans inside information. |
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04-19-2013, 04:20 PM | #3 |
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04-19-2013, 04:28 PM | #4 |
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04-19-2013, 04:36 PM | #5 |
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It seems like the quality of teachers can't be controlled, because every team will believe that they have quality teachers. One would presume that the other Paragraph 2 things could be gleaned from interviews. One challenge, I guess, is that the college coaches may pump a guy up in interviews because they want their guy to go high, but it seems like lying would have a long-term impact on their credibility. (I'm looking at you, John Bunting, and your lies about Ryan Sims.) If I was an NFL team, I'd probably be talking to professors, restaurant workers, tutors, and others who don't have a vested interest. On your first paragraph, that almost argues that the player isn't a bust, but rather that the team didn't do their homework or the team is self-delusional. Is there anything a team could do better to figure out if a left tackle is a fit with their philosophy? And I guess the QB play can't be controlled. You either have Matt Cassel or you don't.
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Acclimating them to an extremely high pressure environment then swiftly placing them in a vacuum?
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04-19-2013, 04:49 PM | #11 |
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Not having a Franchise QB to protect....
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04-19-2013, 04:57 PM | #12 |
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I watched nearly every game Gallery played in college. The guy was a beast. Dominant against the pass rush and punishing in the run game. And he came from college coaching that has turned out a lot of technically sound NFL linemen.
To this day I can't understand how he didn't become a great NFL player.
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The answer is I don't know enough about offensive line play to say for sure what I think makes tackles bust. Like all positions, it depends on the person getting drafted. Players can quite often simply not know what it takes to take all that great talent and use it properly on the football field.
I would have thought coaching would be high as well, but I've seen so many linemen go through shitty coach after shitty coach and still remain around the tops in the league. All teams really have to go off of outside of the interview/film room I guess is what they like or look for in a player? It's the same thing that's going on in the Fisher/Joeckel debate. I doubt either player busts. One is going to be better than the other, though. Fisher plays a lot "meaner" than Joeckel does, which comes across as a kind of virtuosic play that you want out of a top LT. |
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You would think that measurables,balance and foot quickness would be the keys and you should be able to see those on tape and at the combine.
I guess laziness is a bust factor
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Was Jason Smith that good in college? I thought he just blew up the combine
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