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Except you really can't deal him unless he agrees to a long term contract extention. And it appears that isn't going to happen.
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Exactly. I may not like it if they take him, but everything's relative to the player's available for selection. I'd rather take a shot on Geno, but if Joke does turn out to be pretty good and Geno busts I'll eat crow.
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Alex Smith has NEVER thrown 20 TD's. NEVER. 20 TD's is very average for a starting QB. You might screw up and hit 10 or even 18 INT's while throwing 30. He never did. He never even hit the NFL average for "good." He is as safe as safe gets and there is no more perfect a leashed game manager as it comes. There is no upside here. He'll NEVER hit 25 TD's in a year. Ever. Looking back everything about this offseason and our (assumed) draft strategy is looking for "SAFE."
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I guess a good question is ask is Waht's the OT market look like next year? If it's going to be like this year I bet he lowers his demands in the end.
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Considering two out of the three first overall picks that were left tackles are Hall of Famers or will be (Pace), Joeckyl better get to that level in his career.
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Yes, anything less than All-Pro out of Fisher/Joeckel is a failure. And if you get 5+ years of All-Pro performance out of a LT, you're starting to discuss HOF consideration. For a 1.1 LT we should reasonably expect his rookie deal plus strong performance through his 2nd contract; in other words 6-8 years of peak or near peak performance. And given that all he will be is a slight upgrade and cost savings on Albert, expecting All-Pro performance out of him during that time is not at all unreasonable. Immediate HOF? No, that's not fair. But if you're going to use 1.1 on a goddamn LT when you already have one, then yes, anything short of HOF consideration towards the end of his career makes it an underwhelming pick. I don't see what is unreasonable about that.
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If after two years he doesn't throw 25 TD's I get your sig for a year.
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Because that's what it sounds like - getting a younger version of Albert and saving on the long-term contract demands would be sufficient for you? There will be superstar talent that comes out of this draft - there always is. We have the first shot at it. The pick had better be a goddamn HR.
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I wonder the same thing. Let Albert see how much he really is worth.
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You would honestly think with the ranting and raving on this board that we were back to Week 5 of the 2012 NFL season, without a lead, and cranking up the Save our Chiefs movement again.
Before most of you take the bridge, what is the harm in waiting to see what the finished product looks like? I mean, what is there to lose besides a tantrum on a message board? I absolutely think if the Chiefs take Luke Joeckel 1 overall that he should be by the end of year 2 in the top 5 at his position. That's a reasonable expectation.
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True. This year is very weak in blue chip players. Definitely true. Of all positions. This is all trumped by the fact that rookie salaries have been fisted and it's now a mild blip if you draft a bust at 1 or 2 or 3. This makes draft picks more valuable than ever, even in a weak class...
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