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SPchief · 05-06-2013, 07:19 AM

Shields Vs Sale rematch. Lets do this!

duncan_idaho · 05-06-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Ok, I thought your stats were just for the AL

I guess it slipped past you when I mentioned the numbers of blown saves (7+11+12) and that 20/30 MLB teams would kill for this pen?

**ChiTown** · 05-06-2013, 04:59 PM

It's not that Holland came in to close. It's that he came in for a pitcher who was in complete control of his game, and was only at 102. He was fun to watch today. Dude is a STUD!

CoMoChief · 05-06-2013, 05:00 PM

stupid move by Yost IMO. You ask the pitcher if he's tired...if not he's pitching well and you let him go back out there. He just let Guthrie go the distance and Shields supposedly today avg only 1 more pitch per inning.

Shields won't be here long term, esp if he keeps pitching like this. It's time to win now...this is why we traded ****ing Wil Myers. Get the absolute most as you possibly can out of Shields before he's gone.

Of course lets not forget the 1000lb gorilla sitting in the room which is this team's inability to hit the long ball. If you're going to play small ball and win w/ pitching then you're going to see a lot of games like this. Many we've been fortunate enough to come back from behind. Eventually that kind of mojo is going to stop and those games we're just going to end up losing because our bats won't move any runners, esp towards the bottom of the lineup w/ Getz and French

**petegz28** · 05-06-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I guess it slipped past you when I mentioned the numbers of blown saves (7+11+12) and that 20/30 MLB teams would kill for this pen?

Meh, still think we are walking a fine edge. I've seen too much that says it's a matter of time. Going back to the big come back against the Rays, yesterday and today. Not to mention the day after the Philly game that Holland blew.

Just don't have a closer that can put his foot on someone's throat.

**Nzoner** · 05-06-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi

I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over this game. If Shields had been left in and gotten rocked, there would have been people complaining that Ned didn't bring in the closer.

I agree but still Shields should've had the opportunity to at least see how he started the inning,I mean it's not like he hadn't already had a game this season with more than 102 pitches.

Sometimes I think Yost just feels like he has to be involved when he should just let the players do what they're paid to do.

duncan_idaho · 05-06-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh, still think we are walking a fine edge. I've seen too much that says it's a matter of time. Going back to the big come back against the Rays, yesterday and today. Not to mention the day after the Philly game that Holland blew.

Just don't have a closer that can put his foot on someone's throat.

You realize that guys like Mariano Rivera - lights out guys who almost never wobble and are elite time after time, year after year - are the extreme exception, right?

Greg Holland has elite stuff and has been above-average in the closer's role (He's 25-29 in that role, a nearly 90 percent conversion rate, which really is better than just "above-average."

JohnnyV13 · 05-06-2013, 05:16 PM

I don't know. I can't scream too much at Yost. He'll, if Getz makes that play in the 9th, its a win.

In fact, Getz and Francoeur on the roster upset me far more than Yost's managing in this game. I think there are cheap alternatives available that would be significant upgrades.

Frenchy needs to be platooned. That's all there is to it. And, Getz doesn't do enough at the plate to hold a mlb job.

Prison Bitch · 05-06-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Everyone has.

But we scored enough that we should have won today
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No, we really didn't. 1 run in 11 innings is not enough to win ballgames regardless of what Yost and Holland produced in that 9th. You will win probably 5% of the games you score 1 run in. The offense allowed them to keep that tight until they could tie it late.

Yes Sale is good. And no we are not hitting for power against pitchers not named Sale.

Deberg_1990 · 05-06-2013, 05:25 PM

This team sorely needs another veteran bat with some pop. Moose and Hosmer are not ready to carry the team.
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MeatRock · 05-06-2013, 05:26 PM

I don't think you automatically pull a veteran ace in a 1 run game without atleast asking Shields if he wanted to close it out. His pitch count was at 102 and he was a proven dominating pitcher that day. Anyone else you bring in for the 9th is an unknown.

You give your ace starters the chance when they are dominant in a possible 1 run lead shutout.

**SAUTO** · 05-06-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

No, we really didn't. 1 run in 11 innings is not enough to win ballgames regardless of what Yost and Holland produced in that 9th. You will win probably 5% of the games you score 1 run in. The offense allowed them to keep that tight until they could tie it late.

Yes Sale is good. And no we are not hitting for power against pitchers not named Sale.

yes one run WAS ABSOLUTELY enough to win this ****ing game.
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Al Bundy · 05-06-2013, 05:51 PM

Ohh and Chris Getz iz a turd, too.

**DeezNutz** · 05-06-2013, 05:53 PM

Should have won this game, but at the end of the day, it's asking a lot for an entire staff to be this fine. 1 run just doesn't ****ing cut it.

Even shit bums like Getz run into a pitch once every 900 ABs or so.

Kidd Lex · 05-06-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Ohh and Chris Getz/Frenchy are turds, too.

Qft & improved

Deberg_1990 · 05-06-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yes one run WAS ABSOLUTELY enough to win this ****ing hand.
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Well yes technically I guess....but its a little like Martyball kicking FGs instead of scoring TDs. Don't keep yourself in a position where one mistake will cost you the game. The Royals need more power more than they need another arm.
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ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $2963962	It's not that Holland came in to close. It's that he came in for a pitcher who was in complete control of his game, and was only at 102. He was fun to watch today. Dude is a STUD! __________________
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8022254	stupid move by Yost IMO. You ask the pitcher if he's tired...if not he's pitching well and you let him go back out there. He just let Guthrie go the distance and Shields supposedly today avg only 1 more pitch per inning. Shields won't be here long term, esp if he keeps pitching like this. It's time to win now...this is why we traded ****ing Wil Myers. Get the absolute most as you possibly can out of Shields before he's gone. Of course lets not forget the 1000lb gorilla sitting in the room which is this team's inability to hit the long ball. If you're going to play small ball and win w/ pitching then you're going to see a lot of games like this. Many we've been fortunate enough to come back from behind. Eventually that kind of mojo is going to stop and those games we're just going to end up losing because our bats won't move any runners, esp towards the bottom of the lineup w/ Getz and French __________________
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JohnnyV13 Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Casino cash: $6115200	I don't know. I can't scream too much at Yost. He'll, if Getz makes that play in the 9th, its a win. In fact, Getz and Francoeur on the roster upset me far more than Yost's managing in this game. I think there are cheap alternatives available that would be significant upgrades. Frenchy needs to be platooned. That's all there is to it. And, Getz doesn't do enough at the plate to hold a mlb job.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3684454	This team sorely needs another veteran bat with some pop. Moose and Hosmer are not ready to carry the team. Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by Deberg_1990; 05-06-2013 at 05:30 PM..
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MeatRock Seasons in the Abyss Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $10010596	I don't think you automatically pull a veteran ace in a 1 run game without atleast asking Shields if he wanted to close it out. His pitch count was at 102 and he was a proven dominating pitcher that day. Anyone else you bring in for the 9th is an unknown. You give your ace starters the chance when they are dominant in a possible 1 run lead shutout.
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