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Chiefs Mount Rushmore nominations-PFT
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Mt. Rushmore nomination process runs the 65 Toss Power Trap Posted by Mike Florio on May 20, 2013, 4:14 PM EDT AP With six teams to go, let’s turn our attention to the franchise that produced six Pro Bowlers in 2012. And somehow only two wins. But the Chiefs have had plenty of proud moments, dating back to participation in the first Super Bowl. Here’s your chance to scour the team’s rosters all the way back to the days of the Dallas Texans and vote for the four members of the franchise (player, coach, other) who should be on the Chiefs’ Mt. Rushmore. From Hank Stram to Lamar Hunt to Derrick Thomas to Len Dawson to Willie Lanier to Otis Taylor to Emmitt Thomas to Bobby Bell to Tony Gonzalez, there are plenty of deserving candidates. Name your favorites below. |
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05-21-2013, 12:06 AM | #16 |
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So if Belcher is on there it'll just be 3 heads right?
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05-21-2013, 12:09 AM | #17 |
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05-21-2013, 12:09 AM | #18 |
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My second nomination would be Daboll, a pile of shit, an aborted fetus, and a jug of antifreeze
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FWIW, here are the guys who made 1st team All Pro the most times: 6 - Bobby Bell, Johnny Robinson, Jim Tyrer 5 - Tony Gonzales 4 - Buck Buchanan 3 - Fred Arbanas, Derron Cherry, Sherrill Headrick, Priest Holmes, Willie Lanier 2 - Ed Budde, Len Dawson, Abner Haynes, EJ Holub, Albert Lewis, Nick Lowery, Jerry Mays, Will Shields, Otis Taylor, Derrick Thomas, Brian Waters 1 - 20 players
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05-21-2013, 07:33 AM | #20 |
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Add another for Hunt, Stram, Bell, Dawson
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05-21-2013, 07:34 AM | #21 |
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Hunt, Stram, Lanier, Dawson
This leagues about championships and those guy won them. |
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05-21-2013, 07:37 AM | #22 |
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I don't know that I would put the owner on it. I think I would go:
Dawson Stram Lanier DT
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05-21-2013, 07:41 AM | #23 |
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IMO, that particular owner is the most important piece. He wasn't just a money bag or a guy who inherited a team.
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05-21-2013, 07:43 AM | #24 |
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Yeah, but every team could say that. If it wasn't for the original owner, said team wouldn't be there. I'm not taking away from who Lamar was, I just feel that the owner doesn't belong on the Mt. Rushmore of each team.
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05-21-2013, 07:50 AM | #25 |
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I hear you. The difference I see between Hunt and most other owners is that Hunt didn't just buy a team, he was one of the masterminds behind creating an entire league and then getting that league into the NFL. There aren't many owners who have had as much impact on pro football as Lamar Hunt. But there's nothing wrong with having different opinions on this.
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Hunt, Al Davis, George Halas, Wellington Mara, Art Rooney, and Robert Kraft are among those that are no-brainers IMO. |
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You're right, absolutely nothing wrong with having different opinions. I would give Hunt a Lincoln style monument, if I were in charge.
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05-21-2013, 08:16 AM | #28 |
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Hunt, Stram, Dawson are gimmies
Last one is tough, but I gotta go with Gonzo, despite not finishing his career in KC. He's the best as his position in NFL history. Granted, that's 'Modern Era' history of receiving TEs, but he is the best, and it's really not that close. |
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Using profootballreference.com's Career Approximate Value metric, the highest scoring Chiefs are:
Tony Gonzalez - 172* (26th all time) Joe Montana - 164** (37th) Bobby Bell - 149 (69th) Len Dawson - 147 (76th) Mike Webster - 143*** (90th) Marcus Allen - 142**** (93rd) Johnny Robinson - 140 (100th) Buck Buchanan - 138 (111th) Dave Krieg - 138***** (111th) Will Shields - 133 (139th) Willie Roaf - 133****** (139th) Derrick Thomas - 131 (152nd) Jim Tyrer - 130******* (160th) _______________ * 128 AV pts during Gonzales' 12 years with KC ** 18 AV pts during Montana's 2 years with KC *** 9 AV pts during Webster's 2 years with KC **** 36 AV pts during Allen's 5 years with KC ***** 17 AV pts during Krieg's 2 years with KC ****** 52 AV pts during Roaf's 4 years with KC ******* 128 AV pts during Tyrer's 13 years with KC (and Dallas Texans) ===================================== So if you only count CAV in a Chief's uniform, the leaderboard looks like this: 1. Bobby Bell 2. Len Dawson 3. Johnny Robinson 4. Buck Buchanan 5. Will Shields 6. Derrick Thomas 7t. Tony Gonzalez 7t. Jim Tyrer
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Robinson is one I had forgotten about......in all honesty I probably wouldn't have had him in the top 10. I would have been wrong.
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