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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Yeah, that's why I'm still employed in an industry that whittled away jobs. If I sucked at my gig, I'd be somewhere else doing something else. Maybe you're looking in the mirror right now?

You're missing the point, entirely.

I'm not talking radio: I'm talking record labels and music publishers.

Today, the market is dominated by Disney kids, American Idol and teen music. That accounts for 75% of the new music sales today. The rest are bands that are barely getting paid, barely getting developed and are usually dropped after their first record.

Record labels earn their money today on catalog, remasters (which is a scam) and the occasional superstar act (which are far and few between). Publishers earn their money on catalog and Film & TV, which is even tougher these days due to the production libraries and indie artists.

The fact of the matter is that there are very few acts earning money from record sales because music has lost all its value. It's disposable. This stems from the illegal downloading craze of the mid-90's and extends to today. It's very rare that an artist sells a 500,000 copies and even rarer when an artist sells 1 million copies. Hell, the latest Van Halen record barely sold 600k and that was before returns!

So don't tell me that the record business is doing fine, is the same as usual, etc. and so on, because it's not.

Not even close.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're missing the point, entirely.

I'm not talking radio: I'm talking record labels and music publishers.

Today, the market is dominated by Disney kids, American Idol and teen music. That accounts for 75% of the new music sales today. The rest are bands that are barely getting paid, barely getting developed and are usually dropped after their first record.

Record labels earn their money today on catalog, remasters (which is a scam) and the occasional superstar act (which are far and few between). Publishers earn their money on catalog and Film & TV, which is even tougher these days due to the production libraries and indie artists.



The fact of the matter is that there are very few acts earning money from record sales because music has lost all its value. It's disposable. This stems from the illegal downloading craze of the mid-90's and extends to today. It's very rare that an artist sells a 500,000 copies and even rarer when an artist sells 1 million copies. Hell, the latest Van Halen record barely sold 600k and that was before returns!

So don't tell me that the record business is doing fine, is the same as usual, etc. and so on, because it's not.

Not even close.

Record labels definitely have it tougher today for various factors, including the ones above. Corporations have a hand in it as well. It's a hodgepodge of reasons and it starts at the top, the suits who don't give a **** about the artist, or the art.

Music itself is still good is what I'm saying. It still exists.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Record labels definitely have it tougher today for various factors, including the ones above. Corporations have a hand in it as well. It's a hodgepodge of reasons and it starts at the top, the suits who don't give a **** about the artist, or the art.

Please name these "suits". I can name them. I'm friends with many of them. And in working with so many of these people over the course of the past 20 years, I'd hardly call them "suits".

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Music itself is still good is what I'm saying. It still exists.

Music is subjective. What you love, I might hate. What I love, you might hate. Everyone has room for an opinion because all music, regardless of genre, speaks to people differently.

I know plenty of people like you (mostly band managers) that think about music as you do. There's nothing wrong with it and that's what makes you (and them) successful.

But there is room for dissenting opinions.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please name these "suits". I can name them. I'm friends with many of them. And in working with so many of these people over the course of the past 20 years, I'd hardly call them "suits".



Music is subjective. What you love, I might hate. What I love, you might hate. Everyone has room for an opinion because all music, regardless of genre, speaks to people differently.

I know plenty of people like you (mostly band managers) that think about music as you do. There's nothing wrong with it and that's what makes you (and them) successful.

But there is room for dissenting opinions.

Really? Your friends with the CEOs of Clear Channel and CBS? Your friends with CEOs of major banks and all the big dogs running corporations that own media companies and record companies? Or do you just know high up bosses?