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Old 07-17-2013, 06:05 AM   #1
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Harassing people when you are a pussy who cannot defend himself without deadly force is even more stupid.
There's no evidence Zimmerman was harassing Martin.
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:33 AM   #2
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There's no evidence Zimmerman was harassing Martin.
Z was acting as any concerned citizen would who lived in a neighborhood that had recently had multiple homes robbed. He saw a suspicious person in the rain sneaking between houses and looking inside them. He did what Neighborhood watch members are instructed by law enforcement to do in such a case.

TM took it to a whole new level by attacking instead of simply going home and that's why he's dead.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:07 AM   #3
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Z was acting as any concerned citizen would who lived in a neighborhood that had recently had multiple homes robbed. He saw a suspicious person in the rain sneaking between houses and looking inside them. He did what Neighborhood watch members are instructed by law enforcement to do in such a case.

TM took it to a whole new level by attacking instead of simply going home and that's why he's dead.
Except that he didn't do what the 911 operator requested.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:13 AM   #4
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Except that he didn't do what the 911 operator requested.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:15 AM   #5
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:20 AM   #6
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Except that he didn't do what the 911 operator requested.
Since when is a person required to follow directions from a call center operator?
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:29 AM   #7
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Since when is a person required to follow directions from a call center operator?
You're not, but it turned out to be good advice, and I'll bet if you asked Zimmerman today, he'd say he wished he'd followed it.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:31 AM   #8
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You're not, but it turned out to be good advice, and I'll bet if you asked Zimmerman today, he'd say he wished he'd followed it.
Well I think the best advice is to not go out looking for criminals at night.

Another good bit of advice is to not walk around in the dark and act like a confrontational asswipe when someone confronts you.

Maybe he could have said "hey, I'm staying at 123 HappyFun Rd with my parents."

But not following the advice hardly makes either one of them criminals.

Stupid + stupid = very bad results.

They should be on Chappelle's "When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong"
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:38 AM   #9
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Well I think the best advice is to not go out looking for criminals at night.

Another good bit of advice is to not walk around in the dark and act like a confrontational asswipe when someone confronts you.

Maybe he could have said "hey, I'm staying at 123 HappyFun Rd with my parents."

But not following the advice hardly makes either one of them criminals.

Stupid + stupid = very bad results.
I agree. And I'm not calling Zimmerman a criminal. Just saying the people that seemingly are suggesting he did everything right, are wrong.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:17 AM   #10
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Except that he didn't do what the 911 operator requested.
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You're not, but it turned out to be good advice, and I'll bet if you asked Zimmerman today, he'd say he wished he'd followed it.
The 911 Operator is going to advise you to do nothing every ****ing time in any situation. Person hanging from the cliff? They'll advise you not to help them. Why? Because if they tell you to help them....they'll be held liable if something happens.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:32 AM   #11
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The 911 Operator is going to advise you to do nothing every ****ing time in any situation. Person hanging from the cliff? They'll advise you not to help them. Why? Because if they tell you to help them....they'll be held liable if something happens.
Okay. That's fine. Does it change the fact it was the right suggestion?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:12 AM   #12
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The 911 Operator is going to advise you to do nothing every ****ing time in any situation. Person hanging from the cliff? They'll advise you not to help them. Why? Because if they tell you to help them....they'll be held liable if something happens.
Also, the dispatcher never actually told Z not to follow Martin, just that "we don't need you to do that". This was in reference to the cops coming to find Martin.

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Are you following him?

Zimmerman

Yeah.

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Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman

Ok.
He also makes it clear that he is going to keep looking for Martin and the dispatcher says nothing about it.

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Alright George, I'll let them know to meet you around there, okay?

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Actually could you have them, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?

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Okay, yeah that's no problem.
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Z was acting as any concerned citizen would who lived in a neighborhood that had recently had multiple homes robbed. He saw a suspicious person in the rain sneaking between houses and looking inside them. He did what Neighborhood watch members are instructed by law enforcement to do in such a case.

TM took it to a whole new level by attacking instead of simply going home and that's why he's dead.
And the voluntary position doesn't require you to be armed. As neighborhood watch, you look for suspicious activity, and notify authorities, you don't intercede, because they don't want a situation like this. It could've easily been avoided.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:29 AM   #15
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Z was acting as any concerned citizen would who lived in a neighborhood that had recently had multiple homes robbed. He saw a suspicious person in the rain sneaking between houses and looking inside them. He did what Neighborhood watch members are instructed by law enforcement to do in such a case.

TM took it to a whole new level by attacking instead of simply going home and that's why he's dead.
no, he did the opposite of what they are told to do.
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