Football Tarell Brown fired his agent for a really good reason. - Page 6

**Rain Man** · 07-26-2013, 09:29 AM

I bet the agent was really looking forward to hearing his receptionist say, "Tarell Brown on Line 2".

Seriously, it seems like this is really good lawsuit material. Isn't it the agent's job to know this stuff?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...49ers-workouts

Tarell Brown left $2 million on the table this offseason. This hardly was part of the plan.

The San Francisco 49ers cornerback was due to earn $2.925 million in 2013, the final year of his contract. To collect $2 million of that salary, he was obligated to attend offseason workouts with the team. Unaware that his attendance was contractually mandatory, Brown worked out on his own in Texas.

He didn't realize he had cost himself dearly until Thursday, when he saw reports on Twitter. He immediately fired his agent, Brian Overstreet.

"No one wants to leave money on the table," Brown said Thursday, via The Associated Press. "If I would have known the clauses in my contract -- that's what agents get paid to do, to orchestrate the contract and to let you know what you can and can't do as far as workouts and OTAs and things of that sort. That's what he got paid to do. He didn't do that, so in my opinion, you have to be let go. We all are held accountable for our actions. This is part of the business."

After finishing what we imagine was a tremendously pleasant conversation with Mr. Overstreet, Brown reached out to the 49ers. Unfortunately for the 28-year-old, "there wasn't too much I really could say."

"It had nothing to do with not being in shape, not wanting to work out, no contract problems, it just had to do with me wanting to go back home and train," Brown said. "It's something I've been doing for the past few years."

Brown said he plans to sit down with 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh in an effort to work out a compromise of some kind.

"Hope for the best," Brown said. "Pray for me."

Let's throw in a prayer for the agent, too. What a mess.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-26-2013, 10:55 PM

The agent screwed himself as well.

Agents are allowed a maximum of 3% of their player's earnings, but those earning must be paid before an agent receives his portion.

So this guy screwed himself for as much as $60k.

Miles · 07-26-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No offense but it's clear that you aren't used to dealing with "talent".

People who earn a living from their "talent" hire others to maintain their finances, make deals in their best interest and inform them, daily if necessary, of their contractual obligations.

Doing so allows them to focus on their job, whether it's as a sports, music or movie star.

From what's been released publicly to date, it appears that the agent failed his client.

That is a really good point. It would seem that in the general business context reminding him about the provision would be good client service but in the context of an agent representing a player/talent there is an expectation of that.

GloryDayz · 07-26-2013, 11:00 PM

Welp, he can always deliver pizzas to make-up the difference...

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-26-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Welp, he can always deliver pizzas to make-up the difference...

RINGLEADER · 07-27-2013, 02:09 AM

Simon Bar Sinister

WhiteWhale · 07-27-2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think you have to take responsibility for yourself.

That's not exactly fine print in terms of the contract wording.

Yes the agent should be fired IMO, but I don't feel sorry for the guy as it's his own responsibility to know the basic framework of his contract.

What's your familiarity with the structure of NFL contracts and their negotiations?

I mean I'm assuming you're not just speaking irresponsibly of things you know nothing about. What NFL contracts have you looked over? You seem to have some knowledge about what is and what isn't clearly stated to the player.

I mean for all I know these contracts are 27 pages and very confusing for the average person. I have no idea at all what an NFL contract looks like.

**LoneWolf** · 07-27-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No offense but it's clear that you aren't used to dealing with "talent".

People who earn a living from their "talent" hire others to maintain their finances, make deals in their best interest and inform them, daily if necessary, of their contractual obligations.

Doing so allows them to focus on their job, whether it's as a sports, music or movie star.

From what's been released publicly to date, it appears that the agent failed his client.

I respectfully disagree. There are quite a number of people besides sports figures and entertainers who earn a living from their "talent". I certainly do and I'm sure you do to. I have an employment contract that I have signed and it states all of the benefits I'm entitled to as well as my bonus structure. Before I signed it, I had my personal lawyer read it over just to make sure that I understood all of the language in it.

My lawyer doesn't have to contact me daily to let me know what is in my contract and I'm able to focus on my job while still worrying about all the mundane details of my day to day life including taking care of my own finances.

The problem is that these players are used to being coddled and have never had to take responsibility for the details in their day to day lives. They just assume that somebody is taking care of the stuff they are either not interested in worrying about or not smart enough to understand. Many of the retired players who have seen their fortunes reduced to nothing because they didn't take the time to understand what was happening with their money will tell you that they wish they would have taken a more active interest into their contracts and finances.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 07:12 AM

Wonder if he wants he agent to wipe his ass. When discussing money, it helps to be the smartest guy in the room. Brown ****ed up. He trusted the wrong people.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-27-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Wonder if he wants he agent to wipe his ass. When discussing money, it helps to be the smartest guy in the room. Brown ****ed up. He trusted the wrong people.

Wrong people? He hired a respected agent from a reputable sports marketing firm. It's not like he hired an agent he met at Sears.

And yes, when you have a 1-time clause worth $2M, the agent should know about it and push on it. Instead, the agent lost out on commission for that $2M and I'm sure it's going to hurt his ability to attract future clients. His agent, by a mile, is the idiot here.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Wrong people? He hired a respected agent from a reputable sports marketing firm. It's not like he hired an agent he met at Sears.

And yes, when you have a 1-time clause worth $2M, the agent should know about it and push on it. Instead, the agent lost out on commission for that $2M and I'm sure it's going to hurt his ability to attract future clients. His agent, by a mile, is the idiot here.

Trust but verify.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 07-27-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I respectfully disagree. There are quite a number of people besides sports figures and entertainers who earn a living from their "talent". I certainly do and I'm sure you do to. I have an employment contract that I have signed and it states all of the benefits I'm entitled to as well as my bonus structure. Before I signed it, I had my personal lawyer read it over just to make sure that I understood all of the language in it.

My lawyer doesn't have to contact me daily to let me know what is in my contract and I'm able to focus on my job while still worrying about all the mundane details of my day to day life including taking care of my own finances.

The problem is that these players are used to being coddled and have never had to take responsibility for the details in their day to day lives. They just assume that somebody is taking care of the stuff they are either not interested in worrying about or not smart enough to understand. Many of the retired players who have seen their fortunes reduced to nothing because they didn't take the time to understand what was happening with their money will tell you that they wish they would have taken a more active interest into their contracts and finances.

We get it. You hate young, rich men.

**LoneWolf** · 07-27-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

We get it. You hate young, rich men.

Not at all. I despise people that don't take an active interest in the issues that effect their lives and then try to blame others when things go bad.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Not at all. I despise people that don't take an active interest in the issues that effect their lives and then try to blame others when things go bad.

Couldn't agree more. It's always someone else's fault isn't it................

-King- · 07-27-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Not at all. I despise people that don't take an active interest in the issues that effect their lives and then try to blame others when things go bad.

I really don't think you understand what an agents/managers job is and why they are hired.

If the players have to take an active interest in their contracts then there would be no point in hiring agents. But the players don't have the time for that and don't have the knowledge necessary to do that. Its the agents job to interpret the contract to them and make sure they know what's going on at all times regarding clauses.
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BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=-King-;9837680]I really don't think you understand what an agents/managers job is and why they are hired.

If the players have to take an active interest in their contracts then there would be no point in hiring agents. But the players don't have the time for that and don't have the knowledge necessary to do that. Its the agents job to interpret the contract to them and make sure they know what's going on at all times regarding clauses.
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Wow! If it comes to gaining or losing 2 mil, I would hope to be knowledgeable

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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1458491 VARSITY	Tarell Brown fired his agent for a really good reason. I bet the agent was really looking forward to hearing his receptionist say, "Tarell Brown on Line 2". Seriously, it seems like this is really good lawsuit material. Isn't it the agent's job to know this stuff? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...49ers-workouts Tarell Brown left $2 million on the table this offseason. This hardly was part of the plan. The San Francisco 49ers cornerback was due to earn $2.925 million in 2013, the final year of his contract. To collect $2 million of that salary, he was obligated to attend offseason workouts with the team. Unaware that his attendance was contractually mandatory, Brown worked out on his own in Texas. He didn't realize he had cost himself dearly until Thursday, when he saw reports on Twitter. He immediately fired his agent, Brian Overstreet. "No one wants to leave money on the table," Brown said Thursday, via The Associated Press. "If I would have known the clauses in my contract -- that's what agents get paid to do, to orchestrate the contract and to let you know what you can and can't do as far as workouts and OTAs and things of that sort. That's what he got paid to do. He didn't do that, so in my opinion, you have to be let go. We all are held accountable for our actions. This is part of the business." After finishing what we imagine was a tremendously pleasant conversation with Mr. Overstreet, Brown reached out to the 49ers. Unfortunately for the 28-year-old, "there wasn't too much I really could say." "It had nothing to do with not being in shape, not wanting to work out, no contract problems, it just had to do with me wanting to go back home and train," Brown said. "It's something I've been doing for the past few years." Brown said he plans to sit down with 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh in an effort to work out a compromise of some kind. "Hope for the best," Brown said. "Pray for me." Let's throw in a prayer for the agent, too. What a mess.
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BlackHelicopters Spiraling down the Drain Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dante's Ninth Circle Casino cash: $1140588	[QUOTE=-King-;9837680]I really don't think you understand what an agents/managers job is and why they are hired. If the players have to take an active interest in their contracts then there would be no point in hiring agents. But the players don't have the time for that and don't have the knowledge necessary to do that. Its the agents job to interpret the contract to them and make sure they know what's going on at all times regarding clauses. Posted via Mobile Device[/QUOTE Wow! If it comes to gaining or losing 2 mil, I would hope to be knowledgeable __________________ "We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family." "Fredo. You are my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the Family again. Ever." 2019 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
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