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RunKC · 08-06-2013, 06:38 PM

Didn't see this posted anywhere, and if so **** it. This deserves its own thread.

No dancing, salutes or spinning ball: NFL cracks down on celebrating
By Will Brinson | NFL Writer
August 6, 2013 1:39 pm ET

The NFL is cracking down on ball-spinning celebrations in 2013. (USATSI)
Steve Smith hasn't really lost a step at the age of 34 -- and he'll tell you as much -- but he might have to figure out a new celebration this season. That's because the NFL will apparently emphasize cracking down against spinning the ball and a number of other player celebrations.

Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk first pieced together the fact that multiple officials around the league are informing players that spinning the ball in celebration next year could result in a 15-yard penalty.

It's not necessarily a new rule per se, however: "throwing or shoving the ball" already fell under unsportsmanlike penalties in 2012.

Additionally, an NFL spokesperson told Deadspin.com that the league doesn't intend to penalize players who spin the ball in celebration after a touchdown, only on the actual field of play.

Unfortunately for a player like the Panthers' Smith, it's kind of his signature move. He said he'd be willing to make a change or "alter' his spin to comply with the rules however.

“We're working it out,” said Smith said when asked about how he'd handle the change.

There will be LOTS of outrage over the NFL cracking down on players engaging in these sorts of celebrationsl. Some of it is justified: spinning the ball is a cool celebration, requires some skill and is relatively harmless. Spinning the ball -- or spiking it, throwing it, shoving it and pointing it -- is not like making a throat-slashing gesture, which seems forbidden for good reason.

But as long as the league is fine with players spinning after a touchdown, I've got no problem with this, frankly. We don't need someone spinning the ball every single time they pick up a first down. Save the celebrations for the end zone.

**Bugeater** · 08-06-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I will lose my shit if the outcome of a single game is impacted because the refs made some opinionated call about a rule that never needed to exist. All it takes is for one defender to celebrate a sack on a 3rd and 1 stop for this stupid rule to explode in Goodell's face.

And it's not just the celebrations. It's asking refs to decide what counts as a celebration and what doesn't. Is a fist pump a celebration? A spike? What about screaming in excitement? And for what? Look, roughing the passer is enforced because a QB could get hurt. Holding is enforced because it creates an unfair advantage for a pass rusher. Excessive celebration is enforced because... it makes the other team feel bad.

Yet another Goodell disaster.

Oh, I agree with all of that. It's the notion that not having them makes the game less enjoyable that I find absurd.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-06-2013, 10:08 PM

The game does not deserve to be brought back down to the college level with this shit.

MMXcalibur · 08-06-2013, 10:17 PM

FINALLY!

I am glad Goodell is standing up on this issue. I was sick of seeing the Chiefs celebrate so much last season.

**kysirsoze** · 08-06-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Doesn't the competition committee decide these things?

I mean I know people hate Godell (never liked him myself) but I don't think he can unilaterally institute rules.

He's made himself the face of the new NFL. He has championed every No Fun rule he could shove down our throats. Having not read a direct quote from him on this, there is no reason to believe this is not another step towards the sterile, nonthreatening, family friendly, cash cow utopia that he clearly dreams about.

That said, it was a rule last year and they didn't enforce it. As long as it continues that way and doesn't get "tuck ruled" out when it helps the league's favorite teams than I won't ultimately give a shit.

MMXcalibur · 08-06-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

He's made himself the face of the new NFL. He has championed every No Fun rule he could shove down our throats. Having not read a direct quote from him on this, there is no reason to believe this is not another step towards the sterile, nonthreatening, family friendly, cash cow utopia that he clearly dreams about.

That said, it was a rule last year and they didn't enforce it. As long as it continues that way and doesn't get "tuck ruled" out when it helps the league's favorite teams than I won't ultimately give a shit.

Oh I guarantee the Patriots, Broncos, Cowboys, and Steelers will be given some free yards on this bullshit.

Guaran-****ing-teed.

WhiteWhale · 08-06-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

He's made himself the face of the new NFL. He has championed every No Fun rule he could shove down our throats. Having not read a direct quote from him on this, there is no reason to believe this is not another step towards the sterile, nonthreatening, family friendly, cash cow utopia that he clearly dreams about.

That said, it was a rule last year and they didn't enforce it. As long as it continues that way and doesn't get "tuck ruled" out when it helps the league's favorite teams than I won't ultimately give a shit.

Not really the point I made. I can't stand Godell and I never could. He lords himself over the NFL in a way that I just don't think other commissioners past or present do.

Don't rule changes usually go through the committee and then voted on by the owners of the teams?

Godell abuses his power, but in this case I'm not sure he does anything but deliver the memo.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-06-2013, 10:26 PM

I'm sure this move will do MUCH to bring some needed class to Oakland!

**kysirsoze** · 08-06-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Not really the point I made. I can't stand Godell and I never could. He lords himself over the NFL in a way that I just don't think other commissioners past or present do.

Don't rule changes usually go through the committee and then voted on by the owners of the teams?

Godell abuses his power, but in this case I'm not sure he does anything but deliver the memo.

I don't think he can unilaterally institute a rule, no, but a president can't pass a law, either. That doesn't mean when his agenda is enacted he won't be held responsible.

-King- · 08-06-2013, 10:42 PM

Everyone knows that football isn't meant to be fun. How dare players try to celebrate an accomplishment!

ARROW2 · 08-06-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Not really the point I made. I can't stand Godell and I never could. He lords himself over the NFL in a way that I just don't think other commissioners past or present do.

Don't rule changes usually go through the committee and then voted on by the owners of the teams?

Godell abuses his power, but in this case I'm not sure he does anything but deliver the memo.

Oh but this bitch gets all soft on Riley Cooper.....F this nerd ass pussy.....He is a punk who probably never even put on a jock strap.......You make a big sack on Five head and you can't celebrate? **** this punk

Pepe Silvia · 08-06-2013, 11:02 PM

Just when I thought I couldn't possibly hate this prick more than I already did.

Consistent1 · 08-06-2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

Oh but this bitch gets all soft on Riley Cooper.....F this nerd ass pussy.....He is a punk who probably never even put on a jock strap.......You make a big sack on Five head and you can't celebrate? **** this punk

It is an emotional game. To not be be able to celebrate is stupid. How many times are there fights on the sidelines where a bunch of f-bombs get dropped. Kids and families can clearly see all that.

I am tired of hearing about Cooper too. He said something dumb while drinking.

**007** · 08-06-2013, 11:57 PM

So defenders can't celebrate a sack anymore? That kind of blows.

AussieChiefsFan · 08-07-2013, 12:00 AM

I understand penalizing players for going overboard with the celebrations. But this is going too far.

**007** · 08-07-2013, 12:03 AM

Of course, I would love to see Bowe pointing at his name go away. I hate that stupid move of his.

08-06-2013, 06:38 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1869611	Goodell enforcing more stupid rules to make the game less fun Didn't see this posted anywhere, and if so **** it. This deserves its own thread. No dancing, salutes or spinning ball: NFL cracks down on celebrating By Will Brinson \| NFL Writer August 6, 2013 1:39 pm ET The NFL is cracking down on ball-spinning celebrations in 2013. (USATSI) Steve Smith hasn't really lost a step at the age of 34 -- and he'll tell you as much -- but he might have to figure out a new celebration this season. That's because the NFL will apparently emphasize cracking down against spinning the ball and a number of other player celebrations. Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk first pieced together the fact that multiple officials around the league are informing players that spinning the ball in celebration next year could result in a 15-yard penalty. It's not necessarily a new rule per se, however: "throwing or shoving the ball" already fell under unsportsmanlike penalties in 2012. Additionally, an NFL spokesperson told Deadspin.com that the league doesn't intend to penalize players who spin the ball in celebration after a touchdown, only on the actual field of play. Unfortunately for a player like the Panthers' Smith, it's kind of his signature move. He said he'd be willing to make a change or "alter' his spin to comply with the rules however. “We're working it out,” said Smith said when asked about how he'd handle the change. There will be LOTS of outrage over the NFL cracking down on players engaging in these sorts of celebrationsl. Some of it is justified: spinning the ball is a cool celebration, requires some skill and is relatively harmless. Spinning the ball -- or spiking it, throwing it, shoving it and pointing it -- is not like making a throat-slashing gesture, which seems forbidden for good reason. But as long as the league is fine with players spinning after a touchdown, I've got no problem with this, frankly. We don't need someone spinning the ball every single time they pick up a first down. Save the celebrations for the end zone.
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