Chiefs Did Alex Smith remind you of Matt Cassel tonight? - Page 64

Hammock Parties · 08-16-2013, 07:37 PM

7-16

62 yards (45 net)

3 sacks

3 passing first downs (1 on a screen pass)

0 completions over 8 yards.

4 punts

NO TOUCHDOWNS

NO BIG PLAYS

NO INTERMEDIATE PLAYS

I'm pretty sure they have the same father, just different mothers.

**Mav** · 08-19-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

To the point I am not on thread topic, you are right.

What I tried to do is just warn against us turning these threads into 49ers threads amongst ourselves. Right now we are discussing the pecking order of Alex in the football world. It becomes relevant where Stafford & Flacco are in the pecking order of the QB world. I can't let posters get away with implying Stafford is worse than Alex when he is not, or imply that Flacco is some mediocre QB.

It is a discussion peripheral to Alex vs Cassel, but not unrelated, like going off and talking about Kaepernick's last drive in the SB.

If my judgment is faulty, I apologize.

Honestly Kaep, I don't really care either way. I have taken a step back today to just observe, and just relax and have fun. The sad thing is, all threads end up in a train wreck anyways lol.

Sandy Vagina · 08-19-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I can't let posters get away with implying Stafford is worse than Alex when he is not, or imply that Flacco is some mediocre QB.

I never stated that either Flacco or Stafford were inferior to Smith. Nor did I say Flacco was mediocre. WTF? Learn to read.

ViperVisor · 08-19-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

Mostly that comparison is ridiculous because Christian Ponder is a lot closer to Alex Smith.

Of course. Not Smith's strength and not his pass targets game either. Crabtree isn't a deep guy. Moss was on his last legs and being shuffled in and out.
Harbaugh and co failed to use Vernon Davis as often up the seam like back in 09-10.

And Kaepernick wasn't going deep 20+ as much as 10-20.

And like I mentioned before.
Why would Smith be throwing the ball deep in the 5 out of 8 games they were winning solidly in the 2nd half?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 08-19-2013, 06:36 PM

I've tried to avoid saying it, because I don't want it to be true, but I do fear that Alex is just too ingrained to ever fully trust himself and just fire the ****ing ball into a window. If that can't be coached out of him, he'll never be worth a shit. He has to be willing to take some calculated risks.

Sandy Vagina · 08-19-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I've tried to avoid saying it, because I don't want it to be true, but I do fear that Alex is just too ingrained to ever fully trust himself and just fire the ****ing ball into a window. If that can't be coached out of him, he'll never be worth a shit. He has to be willing to take some calculated risks.

I actually agree. It is a concern that he must shake free of with Reid's help.

( and hopefully some receivers that earn his trust )

**Mav** · 08-19-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I've tried to avoid saying it, because I don't want it to be true, but I do fear that Alex is just too ingrained to ever fully trust himself and just fire the ****ing ball into a window. If that can't be coached out of him, he'll never be worth a shit. He has to be willing to take some calculated risks.

agreed. That's why I got pissed. Like I said. im a huge Alex guy, but he wont take chances. And im not going to be that guy saying he is going to FIRE IT UP in the regular season. its just not true.

Sandy Vagina · 08-19-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

agreed. That's why I got pissed. Like I said. im a huge Alex guy, but he wont take chances. And im not going to be that guy saying he is going to FIRE IT UP in the regular season. its just not true.

how bout leaving the absolutes out altogether?

he might...

**Mav** · 08-19-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

how bout leaving the absolutes out altogether?

he might...

Nope. Everyone else in this hell hole can talk in absolutes. I shall do the same.......skally wag.

Squatch · 08-19-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I've tried to avoid saying it, because I don't want it to be true, but I do fear that Alex is just too ingrained to ever fully trust himself and just fire the ****ing ball into a window. If that can't be coached out of him, he'll never be worth a shit. He has to be willing to take some calculated risks.

Good post and I agree. Bowe rarely gets wide open. He is going to have to learn to throw it to him even when he looks like he's covered. I am concerned that Bowe hasn't caught a pass. He's going to have to trust him.

Sandy Vagina · 08-19-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Nope. Everyone else in this hell hole can talk in absolutes. I shall do the same.......skally wag.

haha, sure they CAN... but they look silly doing so. But hey, your prerogative.

ViperVisor · 08-19-2013, 06:56 PM

The last 2 times it was consistently needed and Smith had a talent worthy of faith in they are gonna get a half step on the defense and the ball needs to come out without hesitation.

Vernon Davis 2009-2010 *short lived TE TD record*
Antonio Bryant 2006 *was 5th in the NFL in yard per catch*

Crabtree was a clod who showed up on a bye after holding his rookie year.
Smith was forcing him passes and tried to build up a connection. Crabs is an idiot and was missing camps/preseason so it took time. 2012 he was about what he was supposed to be finally.

KC will most likely be in more tight games and a play here or there are the difference in winning or losing.

We'll see.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 08-19-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Squatch

Good post and I agree. Bowe rarely gets wide open. He is going to have to learn to throw it to him even when he looks like he's covered. I am concerned that Bowe hasn't caught a pass. He's going to have to trust him.

This is the thing. All of our other shitty QB's were willing to chuck it up there and let DBowe go get it. Alex HAS to do that. He has too. Otherwise we are ****ed with a capital Aids fork.

GordonGekko · 08-19-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Squatch

Good post and I agree. Bowe rarely gets wide open. He is going to have to learn to throw it to him even when he looks like he's covered. I am concerned that Bowe hasn't caught a pass. He's going to have to trust him.

This concerns me as well, our second best player on the team not getting a pass is alarming. It has been explained before that Alex has trouble seeing the entire field, and I'm beginning to agree.

GordonGekko · 08-19-2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

It's a horrible decision if you're Alex Smith.

Stafford can make those throws into tight windows.

Alex pisses his pants, holds the ball, runs himself into a sack.

Crap Alex Smith sucks. I'm betting we go five games deep before he plays to a standard that can win us a game. I'm not gonna count a game that JC has 200+ yards in and 2 td's as a game Alex Smith wins for us.

Kaepernick · 08-19-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Squatch

Good post and I agree. Bowe rarely gets wide open. He is going to have to learn to throw it to him even when he looks like he's covered. I am concerned that Bowe hasn't caught a pass. He's going to have to trust him.

Speaking of trust... in the context you are using it...

The quote from Crabtree below illustrates why Crabtree began to thrive with Kaepernick. This is significant because it projects to whether Alex will "trust" Bowe where he didn't "trust" Crabtree in the football sense as a receiver.

San Francisco 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree credits trust factor for his success with Colin Kaepernick

Crabtree credited his and Kaepernick's earlier success to practice time, their common age (25), a shared desire to make plays, and, perhaps most of all, a trust factor.

"I think he trusted me more. There was a lot of trust," Crabtree said on "Total Access." "Playing wide receiver you need a quarterback that trusts you. I feel he trusted me, and we went out there and did it."

So was that trust factor lacking with Alex Smith, who attempted 58 passes to Crabtree last season for 42 completions, 492 yards and four touchdowns?

"I wouldn't say that. I don't want no controversy," Crabtree responded. "I'm going to keep it real. But we (he and Kaepernick) clicked and made it happen out there."

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_228774...-credits-trust

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08-16-2013, 07:37 PM
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Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	I've tried to avoid saying it, because I don't want it to be true, but I do fear that Alex is just too ingrained to ever fully trust himself and just fire the ****ing ball into a window. If that can't be coached out of him, he'll never be worth a shit. He has to be willing to take some calculated risks.
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ViperVisor Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10019798	The last 2 times it was consistently needed and Smith had a talent worthy of faith in they are gonna get a half step on the defense and the ball needs to come out without hesitation. Vernon Davis 2009-2010 short lived TE TD record Antonio Bryant 2006 was 5th in the NFL in yard per catch Crabtree was a clod who showed up on a bye after holding his rookie year. Smith was forcing him passes and tried to build up a connection. Crabs is an idiot and was missing camps/preseason so it took time. 2012 he was about what he was supposed to be finally. KC will most likely be in more tight games and a play here or there are the difference in winning or losing. We'll see.
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