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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Sure-Oz · 09-11-2013, 09:28 PM

CMON ROYALS

**Reaper16** · 09-11-2013, 09:31 PM

I say this run of form is statistical correction from when the Royals won was it 16 of 20? but actually lost a game in the standings.

O.city · 09-11-2013, 09:35 PM

Good luck fellas.

You guys deserve this, no bullshit. Enjoy it, nothing like September/ October baseball

Prison Bitch · 09-11-2013, 09:39 PM

Baltimore al worst 16-26 in one run games. Last year MLB best 26-9

Paging chiefsOsfan......lulz

**alnorth** · 09-11-2013, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

So if Yankees and Royals win today, we'll be tied at 2.5 back with Baltimore and Cleveland? What's the tie breaker for that?
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The tiebreakers are complicated. In all cases, I'll assume that Boston, Oakland, and Detroit win their divisions and that Texas gets the first wild card. Things get even more complicated if a division is also at stake and/or both wild cards are up for grabs.

Two Team Tiebreaker for 1 Wild Card

1 tiebreak game played on September 30th. Home Field is determined by:

1. Head-to-head winning percentage during the 2013 regular season.
2. Higher winning percentage in intradivision games.
3. Higher winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games.
4. Higher winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between the two tied clubs. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until the tie has been broken.

Three Team Tiebreaker for 1 Wild Card

The teams will be designated as Team A, Team B, and Team C. Team A hosts Team B on September 30. The winner of that game hosts Team C on October 1st. The designations are chosen this way:

1. Club with highest winning percentage among three tied clubs in intradivision games chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest winning percentage in intradivision games. If any two of the clubs have identical winning percentages, then then the two-Club tiebreak rules will break that tie. If all three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;

2. Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest winning percentage in intraleague games. If any two of the clubs have identical winning percentages, then then the two-Club tiebreak rules will break that tie. If all three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;

3. Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between any of the tied Clubs, chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until the tie has been broken.

Four Team Tiebreaker for 1 Wild Card

The teams will be designated as Team A, Team B, Team C, and Team D. Team A hosts Team B and Team C hosts Team D on September 30. The winner of the Team A/B game hosts the winner of the Team C/D game on October 1st. The designations are chosen this way:

1. The Club with the highest winning percentage in games among the tied Clubs chooses its designation first, followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. If two Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the two-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which team selects its designation first. If three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the three-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which teams select their designation first. If all four Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;

2. The Club with the highest winning percentage in intradivision games chooses its designation first, followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. If two Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the two-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which team selects its designation first. If three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the three-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which teams select their designation first. If all four Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;

3. The Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games chooses its designation first, followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. If two Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the two-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which team selects its designation first. If three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the three-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which teams select their designation first. If all four Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;

4. The Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between any of the tied Clubs, chooses its designation followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until any ties have been broken.

Five Team Tiebreaker for 1 Wild Card

No one knows, MLB has not provided for one.

**alnorth** · 09-11-2013, 09:50 PM

Short version: I may be wrong, but since the Royals were red-hot after the All Star break, I think they might be able to win all tiebreakers and claim home field advantage.

Chiefspants · 09-11-2013, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Short version: I may be wrong, but since the Royals were red-hot after the All Star break, I think they might be able to win all tiebreakers and claim home field advantage.

They would lose the tiebreaker to the Yankees, I believe, and the one with the Indians is probably still up for grabs.

Demonpenz · 09-11-2013, 09:53 PM

#badboys what you going to do when the Royals come for you?

**alnorth** · 09-11-2013, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

They would lose the tiebreaker to the Yankees, I believe, and the one with the Indians is probably still up for grabs.

Yep, we lose the Yankee tiebreak. We win tiebreakers against Baltimore and Tampa Bay. We'll lose the Cleveland tiebreaker unless we sweep them, then when it goes to divisional record we'll likely win that tiebreaker.

Chiefspants · 09-11-2013, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Yep, we lose the Yankee tiebreak. We win tiebreakers against Baltimore and Tampa Bay. We'll lose the Cleveland tiebreaker unless we sweep them, then when it goes to divisional record we'll likely win that tiebreaker.

I imagine we would, Cleveland has taken a steamer against the Tigers this year.

**alnorth** · 09-11-2013, 10:10 PM

After we lost last Monday, I thought we'd need to win the next three just to get back to where we were Monday morning, which was needing to win the rest of our games at about a 75% rate.

Now, the other teams have lost so much, that I think we're back to square one already before we play on Friday. Just win 3 out of every 4 from here on out, which is still a pretty tall order.

AussieChiefsFan · 09-11-2013, 10:25 PM

So close.

Chiefspants · 09-11-2013, 10:30 PM

So we're now 4.5 games back of the Rangers as well?

Our three game series against them is going to be pivotal for both teams.

Consistent1 · 09-11-2013, 10:35 PM

Not wanting to get flamed for this, but I can't see them doing it. Would be happy to see the winning ways continue into next year, but you never know.

**alnorth** · 09-11-2013, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consistent1

Not wanting to get flamed for this, but I can't see them doing it. Would be happy to see the winning ways continue into next year, but you never know.

Most of us didn't see them getting this close back in August and were looking forward to the winter trades.

At this point, we're in a dazed stupor, unable to communicate coherently, wondering if this is real.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1360308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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