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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:58 PM   #3811
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Our offensive coordinator was on today saying we have to be able to threaten the deep areas of the field and that the passing game is going to have to be more efficient.

And if I were you, I'd watch running around calling people liars before you know what you're talking about
Well, that makes sense. And its true. The entire offense has to play better going forward. There wasn't a part of the offense that you can look at yesterday and say that's as good as it gets. Blocking, running the ball, passing.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:02 PM   #3812
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Will someone please define the lines of Elite, Good, Average, Bad, Beyond bad QB's. Is it a QB rating thing...stats thing...championships won thing...combo of the above? Is anyone willing to to make make that definition?
I doubt that anyone adequately can. There are the few considered elite... Rodgers, Brady, Peyton M.. then there are a few that some put as near-elite like Ryan, Eli M, maybe Stafford, Big Ben, Flacco, and Romo... then, there are a whole shit-load of quarterbacks that are regarded as good but not special.

I think such rankings are pretty much fan horseshit. All of these guys shit the bed at times... and other, lesser QBs step up and step back... all shit. Much has to do with good/great QBs being privileged with consistent schemes, great coaches and players around them.. being developed very well in their early years to handle when later things around said QB are less than great.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:05 PM   #3813
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Our offensive coordinator was on today saying we have to be able to threaten the deep areas of the field and that the passing game is going to have to be more efficient.

And if I were you, I'd watch running around calling people liars before you know what you're talking about
or what? tough guy... **** you, if you have a problem spouting shit no one's heard and then showing no tangible evidence to support it when asked to.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:13 PM   #3814
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Our offensive coordinator was on today saying we have to be able to threaten the deep areas of the field and that the passing game is going to have to be more efficient.

And if I were you, I'd watch running around calling people liars before you know what you're talking about
You said Reid has Every chance he gets- I have heard nothing but praise for Alex from Reid and everyone on the team. Hell there is a full article about his play and how much the players like Alex.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:24 PM   #3815
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Pardon me, Pedersen was on 610 today, not 810.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:37 PM   #3816
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I mean it's great that we're winning, but the Chargers won today because their QB threw for 419 yards and 3 TD.

That's what it took. To beat the Eagles. Whom we play in 4 days.

Gives you pause, no?
Kaepernick had 3 picks last night. Just sayin'
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:38 PM   #3817
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Will someone please define the lines of Elite, Good, Average, Bad, Beyond bad QB's. Is it a QB rating thing...stats thing...championships won thing...combo of the above? Is anyone willing to to make make that definition?
In the past decade or so, I'd say it's become more about winning than any other single factor. It's a quarterback league, so logically, the best QBs are going to beat the top competition and win 2nd/3rd round playoff games and SBs. Good quarterbacks can put up elite stats (at times, anyway), but can't get over the hump and consistently win when it matters.

Overall though, mixing in different eras, I think it's a much more complicated question... it was more of a team game back in the day, so there were guys like Marino who put up the stats, but didn't get a ring, and guys who coasted (relative to other QBs) to a championship with an elite defense or simply an overall better team game that wasn't focused on the QB.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:39 PM   #3818
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Kaepernick had 3 picks last night. Just sayin'
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Pardon me, Pedersen was on 610 today, not 810.
So it was Not Andy Reid saying it in Every presser as you stated?
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:12 PM   #3821
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:35 PM   #3822
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If Alex Smith elevates his play and shows he CAN beat an elite team in the playoffs (and no, the 2011 New Orleans Saints do not count), I'll be all for it.

I hope that happens. It's what is best for my team.

If he game manages them to 10-6 and a first-round playoff blowout (where the offense is anemic), while passing for 3300 yards at a 62 percent clip with 20-8 TD/INT? Yeah, I would have a problem with that.

He needs to show more than what he has so far or even in the past two years before a smart franchise hitches its wagon to him long-term.
I like how we we've already matched last year's total wins and people are still crying about him not being elite. 4 TDs 0 INTs, has some wheels, doesn't do anything particularly mind-numblingly reeruned ala Cassel, and appears to be a good locker-room leader and people are still throwing him under the bus? Shouldn't you wait until he fails before you start crying your eyes out?

So far he looks like the same exact QB he did the last 2 seasons. He's not a world-beater but he'll show up in the clutch when you need him the most. Even in this last game, yeah it wasn't a perfect game (I'm pretty sure no QB in the league throws a perfect game every single week--just look at Kaepernick) but when we needed a TD the most he came through, got the TD and the W.

Also not sure why you're discrediting his win against the Saints. No other QB in NFL history won a playoff game with 4 lead changes in the last 5 minutes.
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I like how we we've already matched last year's total wins and people are still crying about him not being elite. 4 TDs 0 INTs, has some wheels, doesn't do anything particularly mind-numblingly reeruned ala Cassel, and appears to be a good locker-room leader and people are still throwing him under the bus? Shouldn't you wait until he fails before you start crying your eyes out?

So far he looks like the same exact QB he did the last 2 seasons. He's not a world-beater but he'll show up in the clutch when you need him the most. Even in this last game, yeah it wasn't a perfect game (I'm pretty sure no QB in the league throws a perfect game every single week--just look at Kaepernick) but when we needed a TD the most he came through, got the TD and the W.

Also not sure why you're discrediting his win against the Saints. No other QB in NFL history won a playoff game with 4 lead changes in the last 5 minutes.
I'm not throwing the guy under the bus (if you want to see me throw people under the bus, pop into the Royals Repository and view a post on Ned Yost, Chris Getz, etc. - that's under-the-bus-throwing). I'm just not in a rush to proclaim him the answer at QB just because the Chiefs traded for him and because he has beat the worst team in the NFL and a middling NFL team while playing at a very average level overall.

He's fine. Adequate. The post you quoted was me responding to talks of a long-term extension for him.

The guy has been so far this year about what he has been the past two years: Somewhere between the 15th and 20th-best QB in the NFL. Not a star QB, but not a guy who hurts you.

I have higher aspirations for the QB position for KC than that over the rest of the decade. Andy Reid seems to believe Alex Smith CAN be better than he has been, and I hope he's right.

If he's not... I would hope they keep trying to find the star QB, which gives you the best chance to win consistently.

I would think a "clutch" QB would perform better on third down than Alex Smith has. And the Saints game... yes, he played well late. But the Saints were: 1) Not elite that year; 2) sporting one of the 2-3 worst defenses in the league. I included that because that's not the type of playoff win I'm talking about.
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