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Old 07-06-2013, 06:06 AM   #1
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I'm familiar with the roster because I was a HUGE Cavs fan whenever Lebron was there but ever since the Decision, I've had a bad "ex-girlfriend" relationship with Lebron and it just doesn't feel right following them anymore. I've moved onto OKC, but Cleveland was my team with Big Z, Boobie, Mo, Eric Snow, Gooden, etc.
I like Dion and Kyrie, but Thompson doesn't blow me away yet, Bennett could be something, and Varejao has a few years left if that. I wish they could've kept Hickson because I always a fan, but as of now, I think LBJ could step in and win a championship with a few more role player signings.
The cavs are a good team to support a superstar right now. If they land a full time center they have all the pieces set. They have terrific depth and ability to flex between a big and small lineup. Tristan, Bennett, karasov, Earl Clark... These are guys who cam play 2 positions. Also adding mike brown, they also added a defensive stopper in free agency and one in the draft. It does look like they're building their team to prep for lebron s return. I really wish they can win without him. I'd still root for the cavs but really can't root for lebron.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:45 PM   #2
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If LeBron leaves Miami it's to come home to Cleveland. The cupboard isn't bare like it was when he left.. We have Irving, Waiters, and Bennett who all are very young and have All-Star potential, and some nice role players in Varejao, Thompson, Zeller, and now Earl Clark from the Lakers...

A few months ago we were the favorite to sign Oden... Interesting prospect for us, or I wonder if Bynum would be interested in reuniting with Brown who gave him his best season. Both have the injury issue though.
Why in the world would he come home to people that burned his jersey and wanted him to die? Yall don't deserve shit. GTFO.
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:01 AM   #3
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Why in the world would he come home to people that burned his jersey and wanted him to die? Yall don't deserve shit. GTFO.
It's sports, he realizes the impact that his decision made on his home state (by the way, he literally mentions Akron soooooo many more times than any other player in the league has ever mentioned theirs) and in a way, this situation works out perfectly. He is drafted by Ohio, spends a few years there and then realizes he can't win his championship there yet, leaves to go get his first championships, and comes back with an experience of winning and will end out his career giving his hometown what they've begged for decades for. LA has nothing to offer him besides a literally vacant roster and a promise of media that will over analyze every step you take and will directly terrorize your life if you don't succeed every single year (ask Dwight how that was).
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:16 AM   #4
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Why in the world would he come home to people that burned his jersey and wanted him to die? Yall don't deserve shit. GTFO.
Lebron has very low self esteem for a superstar. He won't want to finish his career with his hometown hating him. Or with people believing his legacy is linked to buying a championship. I wish the cavs could have won without him. But in spite of all he did, if he wins anything in Cleveland he will become immortalized.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:56 PM   #5
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If LeBron leaves Miami it's to come home to Cleveland. The cupboard isn't bare like it was when he left.. We have Irving, Waiters, and Bennett who all are very young and have All-Star potential, and some nice role players in Varejao, Thompson, Zeller, and now Earl Clark from the Lakers...

A few months ago we were the favorite to sign Oden... Interesting prospect for us, or I wonder if Bynum would be interested in reuniting with Brown who gave him his best season. Both have the injury issue though.
I think LeBron's going back to Cleveland. Its a chance to redeem himself and Cleveland will be a better situation for him by then. If he wins a third title next year he may stay put, but it's setting up perfectly for a return.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:54 AM   #6
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I think LeBron's going back to Cleveland. Its a chance to redeem himself and Cleveland will be a better situation for him by then. If he wins a third title next year he may stay put, but it's setting up perfectly for a return.
I think he is too.

Lakers are going to have to get real lucky to get someone that's of star quality for Kobe to pass the torch to so to speak.

I have no idea who it is, but I also didn't think Pau Gasol was anything but a pipe dream in 2007.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:58 PM   #7
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:21 AM   #8
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I do enjoy the Lakers going in tge toilet. You don't have the logo around to fleece teams in trades.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:53 AM   #9
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I do enjoy the Lakers going in tge toilet. You don't have the logo around to fleece teams in trades.
Logo hasn't been around the Lakers in 12 years.

The toilet is likely going to be exactly where they were last year, when they had Howard, as a 7th or 8th seed.

What trades did Logo fleece? Vlade at the time was a really good center when he was traded for Kobe. Eddie Jones/Elden Campbell for Glen Rice? I loved Rice, and while it was a necessary trade to get Kobe SG minutes, that's hardly a fleece job.

Logo was great at his job though.
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:02 AM   #10
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I do enjoy the Lakers going in tge toilet. You don't have the logo around to fleece teams in trades.
And the luxery tax for going over the cap has become cost prohibitive. The Lakers are going to have to change how they do things. They are still over the cap with the departure of Howard...
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:30 AM   #11
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And the luxery tax for going over the cap has become cost prohibitive. The Lakers are going to have to change how they do things. They are still over the cap with the departure of Howard...
For this year they are.

I doubt very much they change how they do things from a money perspective. The brand brings in tons of money, the Time Warner deal brings in tons of money.

The CBA has hurt them, but I'll wait to rush to judgement about how it will or won't hamper them until I see how things go next summer.

In the end, the Lakers invested a broken Andrew Bynum, Josh McRoberts and a lottery protected 1 for Howard. It didn't work out but the damage isn't catastrophic.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:48 AM   #12
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And the luxery tax for going over the cap has become cost prohibitive. The Lakers are going to have to change how they do things. They are still over the cap with the departure of Howard...
Its not that big a deal for the Lakers. They will pay the luxury taxand were prepared to do it this year. They will get under next year clearing the the tax penalty. They just have to work the numbers a bit better when they get the penalty down from being over for so many years.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:26 AM   #13
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So any word on where Bandon Jennings is going?

Lakers should maybe go after him...I don't follow NBA free agency that closely.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/85...ents-2013-2014
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:48 AM   #14
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So any word on where Bandon Jennings is going?

Lakers should maybe go after him...I don't follow NBA free agency that closely.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/85...ents-2013-2014
Best case scenario would be for him to play his RFA year out and then enter next year as a UFA.

He's really good, but I don't think he's max out good.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:53 AM   #15
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And people don't just want to tank for Wiggins. The top eight players in the next draft would probably have gone #1 in this draft.
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